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The court will have to prove that Trump was in possession of documents containing "nuclear secrets".
Lat month, WAPO published three news articles and two editorials asserting that Trump had illegal possession of "nuclear secrets". I consider WAPO to be credible and to have impeccable sources, so it does not look good for Trump, but we shall see.
Herein lies the flaw: I consider WAPO to be credible and to have impeccable sources
I remember when they claimed Russia hacked the power grid in Vermont and sent everyone into a frenzy. It was false. They retracted the story.
They're a mouthpiece, that's all.
If "nuclear secrets" were at stake, he would already be indicted.
Guess who else violated federal law, specifically 18 U.S. Code 1924, regarding the unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or materials, as well as violating State Department protocols and tampering (deleting) evidence but no prosecution was pursued?
Guess who else violated federal law, specifically 18 U.S. Code 1924, regarding the unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or materials, as well as violating State Department protocols and tampering (deleting) evidence but no prosecution was pursued?
A vigorous investigation was pursued by the DOJ back in 2015/16/whateveryears. And, a vigorous investigation is being pursued in this case now.
Decisions to indict or not indict are made *after* all the evidence is gathered, analyzed, and vetted. The totality of the evidence is considered. A grand jury is often (but not always) convened to decide if the evidence presented meets the standard for indictment.
Not every criminal investigation proceeds to indictment.
IF TFG did nothing wrong and laws were not broken, then why worry? Let them investigate all they want. What's there to hide?
A vigorous investigation was pursued by the DOJ back in 2015/16/whateveryears. And, a vigorous investigation is being pursued in this case now.
Decisions to indict or not indict are made *after* all the evidence is gathered, analyzed, and vetted. The totality of the evidence is considered. A grand jury is often (but not always) convened to decide if the evidence presented meets the standard for indictment.
Not every criminal investigation proceeds to indictment.
IF TFG did nothing wrong and laws were not broken, then why worry? Let them investigate all they want. What's there to hide?
Mainly, because a segment of the government has been at this for 6 years now.
Time will tell what magical words were blacked out in the probable cause affidavit.
Mainly, because a segment of the government has been at this for 6 years now.
If number of years of being investigated by the DOJ and other governmental agencies has some special meaning, then one should look at how many years prior governmental officials or ex-presidents were investigated. But that's a pointless game. Trying to argue 'but whatabout' as some qualifier is a non-starter.
The salient questions are: Were one or more crimes committed? What laws or statutes apply? And, will the evidence prove those crimes beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law?
If number of years of being investigated by the DOJ and other governmental agencies has some special meaning, then one should look at how many years prior governmental officials or ex-presidents were investigated. But that's a pointless game. Trying to argue 'but whatabout' as some qualifier is a non-starter.
The salient questions are: Were one or more crimes committed? What laws or statutes apply? And, will the evidence prove those crimes beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law?
Yep. Complaining about faster drivers flying past your stopped car is never going to get you out of a ticket.
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Perhaps the blacked out part of the warrant covered intent. A good portion of the warrant was blacked out.
There is video of material being moved away from the storage area prior to the FBI showing up to collect documents per their subpoena. Video of material being moved back into the storage area after the FBI left. That shows intent to keep documents away from the FBI.
Refusing to give back all the documents to the FBI, even after the subpoena shows intent(we know he didn't give all back because the warrant found more). Witness statements after conversation with Trump, any recordings of witness conversations with Trump shows intent.
There's video? You've seen the video? Please link to the video?
Why had the DOJ leaked the video?
If there is no video to be seen, no proof, had the DOJ leaked a talking point about what's allegedly on the video without leaking the video too?
Why is the DOJ leaking many things regarding this matter?
What is the DOJ's aim in leaking things such as what's on the video?
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Herein lies the flaw: I consider WAPO to be credible and to have impeccable sources
I remember when they claimed Russia hacked the power grid in Vermont and sent everyone into a frenzy. It was false. They retracted the story.
They're a mouthpiece, that's all.
If "nuclear secrets" were at stake, he would already be indicted.
Yep. And, if "nuclear secrets" were at stake, they would have raided his place last year.
Nothing more than a self-soothing fairytale for Trump fans.
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