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Old 08-18-2022, 08:17 AM
 
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Read couple of interesting articles that part of the info that Trump took and did not return was tied to the Russian-interference investigation into 2016 elections—
That Ka$h Patel had said on podcast interview several weeks before the 2nd search that he was planning to “declassify” and release documents relating to the Russian interference

https://abcnews.go.com/US/weeks-mar-...ry?id=88461618

https://nwnewsradio.com/abc-news/abc...onal-archives/

Trump has ALWAYS had a burr under his saddle about the Russians helping him win in 2016–that he didn’t do it because America loved him better than HRC—and apparently that “slur” against his popularity keeps goading him to prove it didn’t happen—that it was another “conspiracy” against him like the current FBI warranted retrieval of classified documents

And Peter Strzok has been posting about the MarALago search and seizure to keep his presence under Trump’s nose

https://twitter.com/petestrzok/statu...60529355706369
Now I read there was some hits that Strzok might have been not just a top FBI foreign intelligence analyst but also a CIA agent—and info to back that claim MIGHT have been in docs taken from MarALago—but no serious source to back that conjecture up…

So as long as someone believes the Russians interfered to help Trump and Trump knows that idea is floating around then the idea of “election interference by Russia” is not a dead issue…
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Old 08-19-2022, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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The Mueller report goes into great detail how the Russian's interfered in our election and to whom it benefited. On page 19 of the Mueller report it talks about how Russia consolidated its social media operation into a single general department called the "Translator." It had three separate departments. There was the social media platform, the analytics, and ......(redacted)
It talks about agents coming here in 2014 seeking information and the "specialists" opening accounts on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, You Tube, and Tumblr.

In 2016 the IRA established a Facebook group called "Secured Borders" which started an anti Clinton blitz. The IRA also started pro Trump rallies, in addition to buying pro Trump adds. Their efforts reached tens of millions of American's.

On page 28: " Roger Stone, Sean Hannity and Michael Flynn retweeted or responded to tweets posted to these IRA controlled accounts. Multiple individuals affiliated with the Trump campaign also promoted IRA tweets." Yep even Trump as well.

Russia was looking for useful idiots, and contacted the Trump campaign posing as American's starting in June 2016.

Page 38 talks about the hacks into the DCCC network. The leaks then appeared in Guccifer 2.0 and WikiLeaks. Ever wonder why nothing was stolen from the RNC and leaked?

Page 44 " The GRU was also in contact through Guccifer 2.0 persona (redacted) a former Trump Campaign member." Manafort?
Page 54 talks about Gates and his involvement with WikiLeaks.

Page 59 talks about Don Jr. and direct electronic communications with WikiLeaks during the campaign.

Page 60 talks about WikiLeaks encouraging Trump to tweet a link to leaked emails, which Trump did.

The report goes into great detail how Russia interfered and how it manipulated members of the Trump campaign. It also talked about how they were willing participants and how communications were done through encrypted apps that make communication undetectable and vanish.

The Mueller report reads like a spy novel. Russia will never stop interfering in our elections, but I sincerely hope we never see another "Putin has won" email concerning the election of anther of our presidents. (Page 149 of the Mueller report.)
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Old 08-19-2022, 06:18 PM
 
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Will be interesting to see a less-redacted report that DoJ prepared about Trump’s ability to be prosecuted
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:36 PM
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The Mueller report goes into great detail how the Russian's interfered in our election and to whom it benefited. On page 19 of the Mueller report it talks about how Russia consolidated its social media operation into a single general department called the "Translator." It had three separate departments. There was the social media platform, the analytics, and ......(redacted)
It talks about agents coming here in 2014 seeking information and the "specialists" opening accounts on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, You Tube, and Tumblr.

In 2016 the IRA established a Facebook group called "Secured Borders" which started an anti Clinton blitz. The IRA also started pro Trump rallies, in addition to buying pro Trump adds. Their efforts reached tens of millions of American's.

On page 28: " Roger Stone, Sean Hannity and Michael Flynn retweeted or responded to tweets posted to these IRA controlled accounts. Multiple individuals affiliated with the Trump campaign also promoted IRA tweets." Yep even Trump as well.

Russia was looking for useful idiots, and contacted the Trump campaign posing as American's starting in June 2016.

Page 38 talks about the hacks into the DCCC network. The leaks then appeared in Guccifer 2.0 and WikiLeaks. Ever wonder why nothing was stolen from the RNC and leaked?

Page 44 " The GRU was also in contact through Guccifer 2.0 persona (redacted) a former Trump Campaign member." Manafort?
Page 54 talks about Gates and his involvement with WikiLeaks.

Page 59 talks about Don Jr. and direct electronic communications with WikiLeaks during the campaign.

Page 60 talks about WikiLeaks encouraging Trump to tweet a link to leaked emails, which Trump did.

The report goes into great detail how Russia interfered and how it manipulated members of the Trump campaign. It also talked about how they were willing participants and how communications were done through encrypted apps that make communication undetectable and vanish.

The Mueller report reads like a spy novel. Russia will never stop interfering in our elections, but I sincerely hope we never see another "Putin has won" email concerning the election of anther of our presidents. (Page 149 of the Mueller report.)
Note how you leave out his conclusion that Russia wasn't try to support any particular candidate. What they wanted was divisiveness. His report also shows that they helped sponsor Clinton campaign events. They supported Bernie campaign events. It wasn't just Trump. It was whatever could divide us.

Its hard for me to believe you people are so conditioned that you are still pushing the Russia collusion lie after everyone admitted it was just a Clinton campaign dirty trick. You people are the type who would believe the moon landing was a hoax.
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Old 08-24-2022, 02:00 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Note how you leave out his conclusion that Russia wasn't try to support any particular candidate. What they wanted was divisiveness. His report also shows that they helped sponsor Clinton campaign events. They supported Bernie campaign events. It wasn't just Trump. It was whatever could divide us.

Its hard for me to believe you people are so conditioned that you are still pushing the Russia collusion lie after everyone admitted it was just a Clinton campaign dirty trick. You people are the type who would believe the moon landing was a hoax.
So, Manafort was a double-agent for the Clinton campaign while he was chairman of the Trump campaign? Does Trump know that?!?!?!?!?!
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Old 08-24-2022, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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The fake Russian collusion hoax is not over yet, but the Pubs must regain power to hold people accountable...if they have the guts to. Remember, the Pubs are just as corrupt as the Dems, so holding Dems accountable could backfire later. That is why nobody in DC ever holds anyone accountable...it's all threats & sabre rattling becaue they're all corrupt.

Trump is the wildcard in this all though...he has the guts to blow the lid off the entire illegal hoax that was worse than Watergate...spying on a Presidential candidates offices, and his people, using illegal wiretapping, and illegally obtained FISA search warrants

I heard from a former DC honcho on a nationally syndicated radio program that Trump's lawyers have enough evidence to sink the DC-FBI leadership, Obama, Clinton, & their co-conspirators, the MSM, & all the rest...& its all just lying in wait for the right time...whenever Trump thinks that is. How exciting is that?

That is why the Mar A Lago raid...the Dems thought it all might be there, but it's not. Trump's lawyers have it all hidden away where the Libs can't find it, and if they subpoena the lawyers, they'll just cite client privacy privilege.

Trump is holding all the cards, & is waiting for the right time to play them, and the Libs know it.

It all sounds like conspiracy theory, but it's all so logical...the pieces fit so nicely into place. Trump isn't going to keep anything sensitive at Mar A Lago, and he knows about client privacy rights lawyers have that he/they can use to shield it all. Biden has already ignored past Presidential privacy laws, which Trump anticipated. Trump is always 1 move ahead of the radical leftists.

It would be so juicy and fun to watch unfold, if this DC guy is right. I'd love to watch the radical uber leftists squirming, & the media trying to smoke screen it all...how entertaining.

The idea also drives the Lib posters here crazy, which makes it even more fun for me. I can't wait for them to ask for links, & to try to determine who the DC honcho was so they can try to discredit him, and which radio show he was on so they can attempt to discredit that too...my reply is Regan-esque...I don't recall

So, let's enjoy the posts to follow that will expose their vitriol, and fear, that this could all actually occur.

I've got my popcorn ready Release the hive
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Old 08-24-2022, 02:49 PM
 
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The fake Russian collusion hoax is not over yet...
It's also not fake.

A couple of weeks ago Manafort admitted to giving sensitive polling data and campaign strategy information to Kilimnik while he was chairman of the Trump 2016 campaign.
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Old 08-24-2022, 03:21 PM
 
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Note how you leave out his conclusion that Russia wasn't try to support any particular candidate. What they wanted was divisiveness. His report also shows that they helped sponsor Clinton campaign events. They supported Bernie campaign events. It wasn't just Trump. It was whatever could divide us.

Its hard for me to believe you people are so conditioned that you are still pushing the Russia collusion lie after everyone admitted it was just a Clinton campaign dirty trick. You people are the type who would believe the moon landing was a hoax.
The fact is that Paul Manafort working for Trump’s campaign got info from Russians and gave to Trump’s data guy Brad Parscale —info from the Russians that had insight into specific targets that would be beneficial to Trump
Trump also used Cambridge Analytica that was forced out of business because of its illegal methods of gaining information—Run by Robert Mercer and with Steve Bannon on its Board, Cambridge Analytica was accused and found guilty of interfering with various global elections….

Clinton’s campaign did use data analysis but not Cambridge Analytica

And just remember who were sitting at that table in Moscow—Mike Flynn and independent Green Party Candidate Jill Stein….so yes Russia certainly achieve its desired/designed end of influencing the presidential election…but there is no way I would ever believe Putin was looking to HELP HRC win…
He hates her with a passion Russians save for their worst enemies

And I bet if we ever got an itemized list of the files Trump was hoarding many of them were tied to the 2016 election/Mueller investigation—
Even Stone’s trial (and Trump had his docs) was tied to the Russian influence/Mueller investigation
So Trump had personal connections to people in the Mueller investigation (been friend with Roger Stone and Manafort for decades)
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Old 08-24-2022, 04:08 PM
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So, Manafort was a double-agent for the Clinton campaign while he was chairman of the Trump campaign? Does Trump know that?!?!?!?!?!
He shared polling data with somebody he had worked with in Ukraine. Give him the death penalty!!!!!

You people don't seem to grasp the absurdity.
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