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Old 08-10-2022, 02:04 PM
 
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Of course. My point exactly.
I'm rebutting the "Being pregnant and bringing life into the world is a miracle. It's THE most amazing thing a woman can do.

Literally growing and sustaining another human being. Incredible."

Its a personal thing, one size does not fit all.
Your point: Pregnancy is horrific and most women would avoid it since it is so horrendous.

My point: Pregnancy is an amazing miracle of life and a wonderful benefit of being female.

Let's poll a hundred women. I think you will be knocked down on your @zz shocked that they don't share the narcissistic view that pregnancy should be avoided because of stretch marks and constipation. Oh the horror.
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Well, apparently men can get pregnant now, so I guess hubby should start pulling his weight.
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:10 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Your point: Pregnancy is horrific and most women would avoid it since it is so horrendous.

My point: Pregnancy is an amazing miracle of life and a wonderful benefit of being female.

Let's poll a hundred women. I think you will be knocked down on your @zz shocked that they don't share the narcissistic view that pregnancy should be avoided because of stretch marks and constipation. Oh the horror.
Guys go bald and get back hair. If they'd like to change up......
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:18 PM
 
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The history of the world.

It's a nice place for those who acknowledge and respect life.

And for women who embrace the fact that they are in fact women.
I guess thats why in the history of the world women have sought birth control and abortion and even infanticide. And why so many women throughout history have been shamed, abandoned, excommunicated, killed, etc. for pregnancies.
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:20 PM
 
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Can we be objective here? Can we stop "judging" SW on being "rich" and "moaning"?

Objective fact:

- If Tom Brady wanted another baby, he can easily have another baby and keep playing top notch with no physical problems.
- If SW wanted another baby, she would need to stop playing for at least 1 year and potentially longer (she is 40).

There is no reason to argue the above FACT.

As an elite athlete, she wants to keep playing at top form and break the record for Grand Slams. But at 40, she needs to decide to either keep playing hard... or take a pause and have another baby and potentially not come back to tennis.

For the best player in her sport EVER, this is a crazy tough decision to make.

Tom Brady does NOT have to make this decision. He can have both.

She can have both too.
She can hire a surrogate to implant her eggs in and carry her baby while she continues to play tennis.
And since she also has the option of being pregnant and giving birth, she actually has more options than Tom Brady. Maybe he is the one that should be complaining how unfair it is to be a man.
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:21 PM
 
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I guess thats why in the history of the world women have sought birth control and abortion and even infanticide. And why so many women throughout history have been shamed, abandoned, excommunicated, killed, etc. for pregnancies.
Social feedback loops are incredibly dangerous.

They support confirmation bias.

They brainwash people into thinking that what they believe is the ONLY truth, and that reason and logic simply don't exist.

People really need to get out of them.
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:23 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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The average retirement age of Pro tennis players is 27. That's still plenty young enough to start a family.
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:25 PM
 
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I guess that's the thing.

What is fair about life?

How can any multi-millionaire complain that life was not fair to her, when her complaints are a result of her own decisions to be happier with her life? She had a choice: More fame and money or a larger family. Is life unfair because she had to make that choice?

She had to make a choice between two good things. Two good things. She was going to continue to lead a blessed life either way.

How is that not fair?

"Not fair" would be a necessary choice between two evils. If a woman had to choose between carrying a child to term that is known will die soon after birth, or aborting the child early...she could say that was unfair.

But having to choose between two good things? That's not unfair.
Good grief all she was saying is it not fair having a child, pregnancy, interrupts a female athlete's competition. Your reading too much into it. She was competing when she was pregnant with her first child, she was competing when she was breastfeeding her child. These things put women at a disadvantage, she knows first hand, thats all she is saying.
She made a choice due to her age and wanting another child and she is fine with it. Why is it so awful that she will miss something she have devoted her life to. Her life is changing, there are emotions.
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Austin
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serena had a very successful, long professional career. the sport of tennis provided her a $200 million fortune. she has a husband who loves her. she has a healthy daughter.

instead of being grateful for all these things above, she is whining?
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Old 08-10-2022, 02:58 PM
 
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Good grief all she was saying is it not fair having a child, pregnancy, interrupts a female athlete's competition. Your reading too much into it.
Her life is blessed, fulfilling, and wealthy. She has been celebrated worldwide, and has had a career that will forever be in the record books (at her age, it wasn't going to be much longer anyway, and she wasn't going to set any more records).

Everybody can find someone better off in some way to find a reason to feel sorry for themselves.

Or...we can compare ourselves to the multitude who are doing a lot worse and realize our blessings.

Serena Williams is better off than 98% of the entire world. There are at least 7 billion people who would love to have her life.

Unfair is the life of a 9-year-old rural Nigerian girl who has to choose every morning between going hungry and risking being gang-raped if she goes out to scavenge for food.

Unfair is the life of a woman in Chicago who lived a hard-scrabble, impoverished life for 40 years and then died of exposure in a cardboard box under a bridge.

I'm not playing a violin for Serena Williams, not even a tiny one.
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