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Old 08-11-2022, 07:34 AM
 
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They'll make us trade in our cars for electric bikes
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Old 08-11-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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They'll make us trade in our cars for electric bikes
Or you can take advantage of some poorly run crime ridden urine smelling metro transportation system
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Old 08-11-2022, 07:40 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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From your rooftop solar panel?
Those are busy powering the hot water heater ...
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Old 08-11-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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CA will establish a driving ration system, then exempt the state government.
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Old 08-11-2022, 07:50 AM
 
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As much as theyre pushed, or spoken of as such a great thing, it makes me wonder what I'm missing. If simple questions cant be readily answered, it leads me to be a bit cynical about the whole thing.
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Old 08-11-2022, 08:03 AM
 
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I work for an electric utility at one of the largest remaining coal power plants in the country. As of right now we're slated for about 2 more decades of operations. Lot of work to do in that time to replace those megawatts. And as many point out there's a big difference between base load generation and wind or solar.

Also it's not just where the power is going to come from, but how are we going to get it where it needs to go? The infrastructure especially in older residential areas is going to have a hard time keeping up when more and more people start plugging in EVs. Upgrading the infrastructure is very costly and customers don't want to pay it.
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Old 08-11-2022, 08:08 AM
 
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There are 90,000 dams in the country but only 3% of them are setup for hydroelectric generation. But currently it takes more red tape to get one of those approved than a nuclear facility.

Why hydropower is the forgotten giant of clean energy

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Old 08-11-2022, 08:12 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful State (not NJ)
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Or you can take advantage of some poorly run crime ridden urine smelling metro transportation system
the left would rather us ride a mule powered jitney (the mule being a human obviously because animal cruelty)
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Old 08-11-2022, 08:19 AM
 
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As much as theyre pushed, or spoken of as such a great thing, it makes me wonder what I'm missing. If simple questions cant be readily answered, it leads me to be a bit cynical about the whole thing.
No, this question can be answered simply. It's just that the other posters here aren't interested in constructive conversation; they'd rather make cynical comments.

The electricity from an EV comes from your power company, and that power, today, is usually 1) natural gas, 2) nuclear, or 3) coal. A small, but rapidly growing percentage of that energy will come from solar and wind power. Some days in California (days, not nights) solar energy accounts for over 50% of energy consumed. In Texas, solar energy panels installed in the last year were credited for ensuring the power stayed on during the harsh heat waves this summer.

So yes, if you bought an EV today, odds are the electricity you put into the car was created at the source using fossil fuels. But keep in mind, that a natural gas power plant is WAAAAAAAAY more efficient at burning gas than a Ford Explorer. Even if you're getting your energy from a natural gas power plant, and using that to charge your EV, you're reducing your carbon footprint significantly. More EVs means the power grid will be more taxed, but there are solutions to this. Solar panels are a great deal these days. If more people get solar panels, more power enters the system (and those people with solar panels will save hundreds in energy costs per year). We should also consider reviving nuclear in this country. The technology is reliable, the energy is green, and it is safer than ever.

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Old 08-11-2022, 08:21 AM
 
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There are 90,000 dams in the country but only 3% of them are setup for hydroelectric generation. But currently it takes more red tape to get one of those approved than a nuclear facility.
I didn't know that. That's a shame, considering I know Canada gets so much energy (and lots of the Northeast USA too) from Quebec's hydroelectric dams.
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