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Old 08-11-2022, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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There are 90,000 dams in the country but only 3% of them are setup for hydroelectric generation. But currently it takes more red tape to get one of those approved than a nuclear facility.

Why hydropower is the forgotten giant of clean energy
Dems have been on a dam removing rampage .... Because you know fish might not be able to swim upstream. . Can't win with them. They operate on emotions so they assume everything will simply work out in the end, without fully thinking things through.
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Old 08-11-2022, 09:55 AM
 
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I live in a colder climate, and I have solar panels. Solar panels can absolutely generate over 100% of the power you consume. No retrofitting was required, and installation was included in the price. It was surprisingly cheap to install, and with the new 30% tax credit, will be even cheaper. I urge you to look into installation yourself. I think you'll be surprised by the truth.

The electric company pays to replace the meter, not you. You don't need a battery either, I agree those are a few years away from being ubiquitous. Yes, we do need more energy. But we have options. Solar panels will help. Offshore wind will help too. Keeping nuclear plants open, and opening more of them, will help even more. These aren't unsolvable problems. But once we transition, we will live in a country that doesn't rely on despots in Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, or Venezuela for energy. We will have our own, and it will be cheap.
Yeah, I'm all for renewables and sensible policy.

There just seems to be too much politics and not enough common sense at times balancing what we WANT with how to actually get there without making a mess of things.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:11 AM
 
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Yeah, I'm all for renewables and sensible policy.

There just seems to be too much politics and not enough common sense at times balancing what we WANT with how to actually get there without making a mess of things.
Well I don't have an answer for you as to how to take the politics out of it. Some people have it in their minds that "green energy" is bad because liberals like it.

I begrudgingly agree that it's going to take compromise to get America on renewable energy. That's why the Inflation Reduction Act gave a ton of goodies to the fossil fuel industry. We can't snap our fingers and be green, we will need fossil fuels for a couple decades.

My hope is that, with the new subsidies, conservatives might look at the cost of solar panels, and the ROI, and make a non-political, purely economical decision. Adding solar panels will save most people money. If you have the ability to pay in cash, you recoup in about 7 years usually (maybe less with costs coming down). If you put zero money down on one of those 30 year loans they're offering, you end up paying a ton of interest, but you should be saving around $30-50 per month because the solar loan payment will be less than your electric bill would have been.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:11 AM
 
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Electricity will be in incredibly high demand. Roof panels are hardly going to supply a home with enough juice especially colder climates, besides the cost of retrofitting and installation costs make that unrealistic. You need duel meters, a gigantic battery if you can afford to do that route. etc etc. Its just not viable there. We would need more nuke plants, transmission etc. Im not discounting it, but it really is waaay off in the future. Im not ready for skyrocketing energy bills and blackouts. Would like to see the clear vision, and not 'pie in the sky'
? In colder climates heating is mostly natural gas so electric use plummets in the winter.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:14 AM
 
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Liberals believe that electricity is created by magic and there is no cost associated with it, much like they believe money is created by magic and there are no consequences associated with spending money one doesn't have. Their collective cognitive dissonance is fascinating in a train wreck sort of way.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:15 AM
 
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Where will the electricity for EV's come from? What will it do to the cost of electricity? Many other questions, but these are the most obvious. Sincerely wondering.
Coal and gas and it will continue to raise electricity prices.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:15 AM
 
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? In colder climates heating is mostly natural gas so electric use plummets in the winter.
Well the plan is to transition away from natural gas heating as well. Though I bet gas heating will outlast ICE cars.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:15 AM
 
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the electricity will come from power plants that use fossil fuels and nuclear energy. We will need to build a lot of them too,

We better start now on the nuclear, as only 2 more are scheduled to come online next year; both in Georgia. There aren't any even scheduled for new construction after this, and take 3-5 years for completion.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:16 AM
 
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Coal and gas and it will continue to raise electricity prices.
Yes, energy costs are probably going to keep rising, so if you live in a state that does net metering on solar panels, you will insulate yourself from rising energy costs by adding solar panels.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:16 AM
 
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Coal and gas and it will continue to raise electricity prices.
This is todays reality. Its unfeasible.
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I live in a colder climate, and I have solar panels. Solar panels can absolutely generate over 100% of the power you consume. No retrofitting was required, and installation was included in the price. It was surprisingly cheap to install, and with the new 30% tax credit, will be even cheaper. I urge you to look into installation yourself. I think you'll be surprised by the truth.

The electric company pays to replace the meter, not you. You don't need a battery either, I agree those are a few years away from being ubiquitous. Yes, we do need more energy. But we have options. Solar panels will help. Offshore wind will help too. Keeping nuclear plants open, and opening more of them, will help even more. These aren't unsolvable problems. But once we transition, we will live in a country that doesn't rely on despots in Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, or Venezuela for energy. We will have our own, and it will be cheap.
How do you heat? Ac? Cloudy days?
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