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Old 08-12-2022, 08:43 AM
 
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FBI has had 'issues' going back to the Hoover days who had programs like on spying high profile private citizens like MLK.

Problem is in any big multi location organization there will always be renegades or those that do it their way wether it be a government bureaucracy, miltary, national corporation etc which comes from lack of routine over sight and leadership that does not worry about detail.
It isn't a renegade hidden in the apparatus when it is the leader of the FBI for half a century (48 years), J. Edgar Hoover, institutionalizing lawbreaking and made it common place for decades.
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Old 08-12-2022, 08:43 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Originally Posted by anononcty View Post
FBI has had 'issues' going back to the Hoover days who had programs like on spying high profile private citizens like MLK.

Problem is in any big multi location organization there will always be renegades or those that do it their way wether it be a government bureaucracy, miltary, national corporation etc which comes from lack of routine over sight and leadership that does not worry about detail.
Hoover had a cache of "private" files on people. He used the FBI to his personal benefit and conducted covert operations on American citizens.


Here's one"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
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Old 08-12-2022, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The FBI has been political since the days of J. Edgar Hoover. These days it's become an overreaching goon squad for the power brokers of the deep state and Democratic Party. I’d like to see the FBI decentralized into several different investigatory agencies that address:

1.) Major crimes like bank robbery, human trafficking and kidnapping.

2.) Cyber-crimes and financial crimes.

3.) Counterespionage and terrorism.

4.) Crime lab, forensics and the NCIC/NLETS data base.

But it's doubtful that this will ever happen.
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Back to the one size fits all mentality? Is the FBI perfect? No. You go look on every single police department and you will find some bad apples. That doesn't mean the who system is corrupt.

Raiding Trump's palace to retrieve that which was stolen? Yep, they got it right. So did the judge that reviewed the evidence and signed off on the warrant. I just wonder who ratted him out? My guess, one of the secret service agents.
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:17 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Back to the one size fits all mentality? Is the FBI perfect? No. You go look on every single police department and you will find some bad apples. That doesn't mean the who system is corrupt.

Raiding Trump's palace to retrieve that which was stolen? Yep, they got it right. So did the judge that reviewed the evidence and signed off on the warrant. I just wonder who ratted him out? My guess, one of the secret service agents.
AG Garland said he signed the warrant.
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:25 AM
 
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It isn't a renegade hidden in the apparatus when it is the leader of the FBI for half a century (48 years), J. Edgar Hoover, institutionalizing lawbreaking and made it common place for decades.
I don't want to label every agent as corrupt but yes theyre enough in management that still either tolerate or perpetuate crap. That's why in sports management is frequently the first go and they can start fresh top down. Problem is any organization once in management their circle tends to get smaller and everyone knows each other which makes corruption easier.

Besides MLK the thing that caught my eye by the 1990s was when the lab/s had issues. People also forget or ignore the fact the FBI had an active under cover op on the terrorists that bombed the WTC in the 1990s. My guess is they didn't wrap it up and make arrests because someone was looking for something bigger career maker. The DOJ and others like those press conferences with the flow charts, pictures behind them and a tables of evidence in front of them.
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro Beach
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It’s so ridiculous and obvious. Nuclear documents? Give me break. Maybe the FBI should spend more time cleaning out their politically motivated top officials instead of interfering in elections being used as tool for the left.

Honestly nuclear weapon documents are safer with Trump than the volatile potato currently sitting in Trump’s seat.
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