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Old 08-12-2022, 07:06 AM
 
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Nothing should surprise us anymore. The democrats are sneaky and they will bury their agenda in some Bill with a cute name, pass it and then we have to deal with the fallout.



I would not be surprised if they did tap our retirement funds at a higher tax rate or some other scheme because you know "Equity". In their minds it just is not fair that you worked hard and put some money away when some people don't work and have nothing for their future. Why should those people with nothing suffer when you have so much?



The Democrats flat out do not like people that can take care of themselves because they cannot be controlled. Independent Thought is Bad and Independent Wealth is also Bad.
Great post as always!
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Old 08-12-2022, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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Sounds like it came from a right-wing nut job web site, or a Russian/Chinese spam site designed to instill fear.

Silly thought. Not going to happen unless we get a LONG way from where we currently stand economically, socially, legislatively, and just about any other dynamic you can consider.

But it does stir up conversation, however ridiculous.

no, its actually true and a quick search shows a movement by the squad (et al) to have your salary (regardless of where you work) put into a GOVERNMENT bank account and you get 'paid' according to a schedule they set. of course this goes hand in hand with everyone in vertical housing projects in cities along with the discouragement (outlawing?) of single family home ownership.


we could say these regressive plans have snowballs chance in hell of making it, but we could have said that about a LOT of stuff in play today that was pure nut job territory 10 years ago.


SS is broke in 5 years possibly. 10 for sure, unless a change is made. I retire from the gubmnt in 9 yrs 4 months and cannot say for sure, I will get what I am promised or paid into. SS has always been a 'b*tch fund' for the dems to dip into. *thats why they created it* but us cretins started living longer.
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Old 08-12-2022, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Read my post. Many, many, many democrats believe that millionaires shouldn't receive social security.

Most of those millionaires are millionaires because of their retirement savings.

In other words, democrats want them to be penalized because of their retirement savings.

What is the difference whether they take away their social security money, or take the money directly from their 401k?

The person still loses the same amount of money, all for the crime of "saving too much".
Agreed, Democrats want to means test Social Security, your net worth too much? No SS for you!
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Old 08-12-2022, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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Democrat, Republican it matters not to me, they see a pile of money they'll try to get their hands on it. It's what politicians do.
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Old 08-12-2022, 07:33 AM
 
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I have long thought that Democrats would eventually seriously discuss confiscating 401K balances to shore up Social Security when it becomes insolvent. They'll make some gesture to juice the SS benefits of those they take from and say that they're getting their money back, but it won't change the fact that it's outright stealing.


It's part of why I only contribute enough to get the full match from my company and do my own investing outside of retirement accounts with my excess funds.
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Old 08-12-2022, 07:36 AM
 
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Of course politicians could dip into your 401ks. We have seen this happen around the world, and Democrats did this in the 1930's seizing citizens gold, and history will surely repeat itself.
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Old 08-12-2022, 07:39 AM
 
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No.
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Old 08-12-2022, 07:47 AM
 
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There are a lot of “right wing conspiracies” that have come true…..
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Old 08-12-2022, 07:49 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Agreed, Democrats want to means test Social Security, your net worth too much? No SS for you!
The democrats are always trying to change social security into something that it is not.

Another thing they often try to do is remove the limit on FICA taxes that we pay in.

This might be slightly less disgusting, if they in turn, removed the limit on the payment you get in retirement. But they don't.

I repeat, they want us to pay an unlimited amount into it, while preserving the limit on what we get paid out, and possibly removing our retirement payment altogether if we "have too much money" saved up.

They have no shame.
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Old 08-12-2022, 07:52 AM
 
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Not only do they want your money if the control your money they control you.

The tax code is about 6800 pages long which means it's very easy for them to find something on your return. The US is already one of the most 'criminalized' nations in the world with the average American committing 3 crimes a day.

https://irisreading.com/how-long-wou...-u-s-tax-code/

https://www.mic.com/articles/86797/8...t-realizing-it

It was noted up thread but a leftist government does not want people that are financially independent. They want dependence on the government like a junky on crack.

That means a lot of chipping away, nickel and dimming until one has almost nothing if they're lucky.
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