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Old 08-14-2022, 05:21 PM
 
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One of the best videos that describe how Hitler came to power in Germany was produced by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

They show how Germany went from a democratic nation to authoritarian rule based on fear and lies that socialist, marxist, and liberals were about to take over. One of the things that stands out is they show how the military, and every Government employee taking an oath to a single man Adolf Hitler. Much like we see today where republican party has put a single man above the rule of law, and democracy.

Why didn’t you mention that part of the Nazi takeover of the entire country was started in the institutions which were used to synchronize economic, political, cultural and social “ways of thinking.” They called this “Gleichschaltung,” top down, and “Selbstgleichschaltung,” bottom up.

Was Trump able to align economic, political, cultural and social thinking with his “cult of personality?” You know, like how Diversity, Equity and Inclusion is ripping through all of the institutions? Did Trump even really control the institutions? I seem to remember every single word that came out of his mouth being hyperbolically analyzed and fought every step of the way.

The truth is you have no idea how a “thought reform” program works and neither does Trump. It should be a giant red flag to you that all cults of personality required control of the State and power, neither of which Trump had. It’s amazing you seem so concerned about authoritarianism but seem to be completely unaware that an Americanized Gleichschaltung & Selbstgleichschaltung is occurring and okay its core is race politics, complete control of the State and a weaponization of compassion using marginalized people as shields to subvert the institutions.

Look around, Sherlock.

 
Old 08-14-2022, 06:27 PM
 
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It was the small steps which led to the holocaust. It occurred after many years of the steps we are detailing. The Genocide did not appear out of thin air. It was planned.

Get with it.
They started off imprisoning/enslaving then all but once they realized the logistics of imprisoning European Jews they came up with a “final solution.” They figured out how to bring down the cost of death to something like $.01-$.02 each. I guess they could have been more evil and figured out a way for those people to use their own wealth to sterilize themselves and destroy millions upon millions of years of successful reproduction.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Comparisons of this nature belittle the victims of the Holocaust. It is beyond hyperbole. I expect I am not alone in discounting any argument that may be made about the present circumstances made from a basis of comparing it to Nazism. Unless you are speaking of genocide and circumstances truly similar to the Holocaust, don't make the comparison.
Comparing [insert something that leftist hate] to Hitler/Nazis/Holocaust is #1 thing in leftist playbook.

Remember, when leftists were comparing migrant detention camp to Nazis concentration camp a few years ago?
 
Old 08-14-2022, 06:41 PM
 
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“Democracy destroys itself because it abuses its right to freedom and equality. Because it teaches its citizens to consider audacity as a right, lawlessness as a freedom, abrasive speech as equality, and anarchy as progress.”

—-Isocrates (436–338 BC), one of the most influential Greek rhetoricians of his time.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 07:55 PM
 
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Giving back the power to the states (like Roe v Wade) is pretty extreme for the democrats

LMAO
It’s almost like anything that does not move towards global government is suddenly extreme, including sovereignty and self interest including elections.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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They started off imprisoning/enslaving then all but once they realized the logistics of imprisoning European Jews they came up with a “final solution.” They figured out how to bring down the cost of death to something like $.01-$.02 each. I guess they could have been more evil and figured out a way for those people to use their own wealth to sterilize themselves and destroy millions upon millions of years of successful reproduction.
After six years or trying this latest raid on the President's home is the latest "solution". The trouble is that they are electing him unless the try the "other" means.

Like the Nazi's planning, they too have no limits.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 08:05 PM
 
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Hitler had complete control of the press and police. Democrats have complete control of the press and DOJ. DHS Disinformation Board? Come on man

Trump had neither.



But yeah, Trump is the Hitler here, right?
The reality is that this vanguard “movement” is pushing for global government and to that end they have created a program that must not fail, mission critical stuff. For if it does fail nothin short of a world war will break out, or worse. To that end they have looked at, and taken bits and pieces, from all of the totalitarian regimes of the past. They created a program that would make Machiavelli blush. Everything is on the table and they’ve been implementing their 50 years plan methodically starting with Nixon in the 1970’s removing us from the gold standard and “realigning” East-West relations (managed decline). Nixon and Kissinger understood “Limits to Growth” and how Mao used thought reform at the institutional level to transform his country and hundreds of millions of citizens into obedient loyal followers willing to accept anything The Party dictates. They knew the West would lose that battle and there was also a time limit, no more than 100 years…

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Mao Zedong Meets Richard Nixon, February 21, 1972
Declassified transcript of the Beijing meeting between China's leader and America's. It took place in Chairman Mao's living quarters.

Chairman Mao: Do you have anything to say, Doctor?

Dr. Kissinger: Mr. Chairman, the world situation has also changed dramatically during that period. We’ve had to learn a great deal. We thought all socialist/communist states were the same phenomenon. We didn’t understand until the President came into office the different nature of revolution in China and the way revolution had developed in other socialist states.

President Nixon: Mr. Chairman, I am aware of the fact that over a period of years my position with regard to the People’s Republic was one that the Chairman and Prime Minister totally disagreed with. What brings us together is a recognition of a new situation in the world and a recognition on our part that what is important is not a nation’s internal political philosophy. What is important is its policy toward the rest of the world and toward us. r totally disagreed with. What brings us together is a recognition of a new situation in the world and a recognition on our part that what is important is not a nation’s internal political philosophy. What is important is its policy toward the rest of the world and toward us.
https://china.usc.edu/mao-zedong-mee...bruary-21-1972
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Old 08-14-2022, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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We are just widgets to them.

Our dreams goals and loves mean little to them.

That is the way it works.
 
Old 08-15-2022, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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And that would naturally according to our laws be within reason. Its perfectly rational.
Get with your legislators and get the laws changed if you think they are wrong. That is how the process and the country work.
 
Old 08-15-2022, 07:53 AM
 
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Get with your legislators and get the laws changed if you think they are wrong. That is how the process and the country work.
I want everyone to see the logic behind cueball's assertions. She states if the law is fair and lawful and followed (e.g. correctly applied) it must be legal.

Did that happen here? Most Americans feel that the way it was applied was extreme. Even CNN commentators were bothered by the break in to Trumps home. But Cueball asserts that is not relevant. So be it.

Why did the FBI use a magistrate judge in Florida rather than the DC circuit? Most reports reveal that the magistrate was selected due to a political bias. Relevant? Perhaps.

Did the FBI state truthfully on the warrant? Lawyers for Trump state all files and records had been declassified and the FBI states in it's report that classified documents were taken. Is this true? Debatable.

Was it applied correctly? Most legal experts state that since negotiations were ongoing and that the FBI did not produce a substantial reason to believe that the documents were at risk feel the law was applied with predjucied. So No.

If only one of the elements is flawed, the warrant is tainted. In addition the manner in which they were obtained is highly prejudicial to the former president.

Now anything can happen in a courtroom, did the Judge get his eggs cooked right, is someone late to show up and many others can predispose a jurist to rule for or against. In this case the FBI's case is very weak and the leaks from the press (nuclear codes) are highly inflammatory.

So Cueball. The box you created has many corners and even some curves to it. The problem is that rational men and women may disagree, but your certainty may give you a blind spot to these events.

My prediction? The district court will rule in the Presidents favor. The FBI will refuse to return the files. Garland will order the arrest of President Trump. He will be released....and announce for President.

The Tsunami of popular support will flood the nation and he will eventually be reelected.

The real question is: What are they afraid of?
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