Scientists were wrong about global warming in the Arctic (solutions, money, world)

[Roboteer]

Originally Posted by 303Guy

No, the authors specifically said satellite measurements.

Those too.

Nobody is claiming the satelliete measurements weren't accurate.

But they were often deliberately fudged, just as the rest were.

[bluesjuke]

"Our axis has tilted so we need to move some more people to the other side to tilt it back."

- Congressman Hank Johnson

[AfricanSunset]

Just to be clear - this means their models are wrong. If their models are wrong we cannot be sure of the underlying cause of global warming.

[DRob4JC]

From the study...

The observed multi-dataset mean temperature trend in the Arctic is 0.73 ∘C decade−1 and for the globe as a whole 0.19 ∘C decade

A decade from now, things may change.

[303Guy]

My understanding is that in the past when it was very warm on earth, it was the polar regions that were the warmest - by a huge margin. The lower latitudes were two or three degrees Celsius warmer while the poles were ice free in summer.

[rjshae]

Land fills are also releasing methane at a more rapid rate than was previously thought.

[rjshae]

Originally Posted by AfricanSunset

Just to be clear - this means their models are wrong. If their models are wrong we cannot be sure of the underlying cause of global warming.

No that is not what it means. The underlying cause is fairly well understood from physics principles. What is uncertain is the rate at which the climate change will occur.

[jetgraphics]

Climate is what you expect - weather is what you get.
Blaming every weather anomaly on "climate change" is a scam to "spook" the sheeple into a stampede.
Look where the shepherd is steering "us"...

[jetgraphics]

Originally Posted by rjshae

No that is not what it means. The underlying cause is fairly well understood from physics principles. What is uncertain is the rate at which the climate change will occur.

WHAT PHYSICS PRINCIPLES?
Please, tell us how a "heat trapping atmosphere" keeps us cooler than nearby bodies without atmosphere?
- - - DATA - - -
Earth max : (134.33 F)
Space station max : (250 F)
Lunar surface max : (242.33 F)
. . . .
Outside of the "toasty" atmosphere:
Solar irradiance : 1300 W/m^2
Inside:
(at equator, noon) : 1000 W/m^2

That's a 30% reduction in energy.
More Facts in support - - -
Earth Albedo : 0.3
Moon Albedo : 0.11
- - - -

Now, let me lead you to a KARBONITE SITE:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-...orrelation.htm

... "A tiny amount of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, like methane and water vapour, keep the Earth's surface 30°Celsius (54°F) warmer than it would be without them.”

WAIT - the Earth with ‘heat trapping’ atmosphere is 108° F cooler than the Moon without an atmosphere (242-134F). And they are claiming that trace gases are keeping Earth’s surface 30°Celsius (54°F) warmer despite the atmosphere keeping us 116°F cooler than the Space Station right outside of Earth’s atmosphere (250-134F).

Too confusing?
=> Zero atmosphere = 250 F (space station)
=> Atmosphere w/ CO2 = 134F (Earth surface)
. . . .but the Karbonites are claiming. . . .
=> Atmosphere w/o CO2 = peak 80F (134 - 54); average 30F (84-54) [Ice age?]

HOAX, FOLKS


http://humansarefree.com/2016/04/top...ng-is.html?m=0
Top Scientist Resigns: 'Global Warming is a $Trillions Scam — It has Corrupted Many Scientists'

“Your own Physics Department (of which you are chairman) would lose millions a year if the global warming bubble burst. When Penn State absolved Mike Mann of wrongdoing, and the University of East Anglia did the same for Phil Jones, they cannot have been unaware of the financial penalty for doing otherwise.”

When you buy bogus results, it’s no longer science.
When you embrace beliefs as incontrovertible, it’s religion.

[303Guy]

Originally Posted by jetgraphics

Climate is what you expect - weather is what you get.
Blaming every weather anomaly on "climate change" is a scam to "spook" the sheeple into a stampede.
Look where the shepherd is steering "us"...

I'm not sure it's a scam. I suspect these deluded fools actually believe what they are saying. It's like it's part of the woke psychosis. I'm not saying global warming is not happening, just that running around like a chicken without a head is only going to make things worse.