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Old 08-17-2022, 10:33 AM
 
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It truly is best to shelter children from new ideas, to avoid scientific curiosity. Adults should especially avoid any mention of sex until kids reach their majority where they are mature enough for such discussion. 25 is a good age for that, maybe 35 for some men...

I took comparative religion in high school. We read the Bible, the Koran, the Bagvad Gita (or however it's spelled) and a few lesser works I forgot. In music appreciation we listened to, OMG, Janis Joplin, Simon & Garfunkle, John Lennon and other "revolutionaries."

And in political science we studied the Jefferson Papers, read Karl Marx and Hitler. Studied Cuba and Che Guevara. My wife took gender studies in college and in one class discussed Ted Kazinski's "manifesto." (And before you diss her, she has 4 degrees from a major university and graduated #1 in her major.)

I also learned how to make a dado cut, hang doors and build stairs in the 7 & 8th grades in woodshop, and how to fix cars in high school. And how to bake a cake and balance a checkbook in Home Ec, which everyone took. And we had a 6 month drivers Ed class, complete with "Red Asphalt." AND - we earned our NRA Basic Rifle / gun safety certificate, and got our basic SCUBA card in Phys Ed.

This is why I can write rings around most of you, fix anything, drive safely, swim a half mile and shoot straight. So

But, oh my, the religious right must protect children from exposure to anything that doesn't match the parents poor education and backwards thinking. And it gets worse with each generation.

Of course we didn't have drive-bys, gang bangers, flash mobs, sexual predators online, or any of the other garbage kids must deal with today that their clueless parents are apparently oblivious to.

But by golly we should "ban" books, it might cause kids to actually think, or gawd forbid, be exposed to ideas outside their limited sphere.

Oh and I speak French and Spanish, and flunked out of Algebra 2.

Great speech but have you looked at some of the books "conservatives" object to? We aren't talking "Pride and Prejudice" nor "To Kill a Mockingbird."

I'm nominally conservative on the fiscal side and a tad liberal on the social side and as an atheist certainly not on the religious right. I don't want little kids exposed to masturbation training and sex identity roadmapping.
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Old 08-17-2022, 10:41 AM
 
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The bible is filled with rapes and murders and no one on the right seems to care about that. So let's be fair and remove both. How about that?
To Kill A Mockingbird has a rape in it.

Should that go also?
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Old 08-17-2022, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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They also banned Anne Frank illustration book due to a portion of the book hinting that she may have been interested in women. To my knowledge this is what happened.

1. Committe hired to review the book
2. Committe ruled book was fine and should remain
3. School board rejected this recommendation
4. School board banned the book

What in the hell is going on.
your knowledge, as indicated by an inability to read or comprehend the op-ed linked, is faulty.

and it's "Committee", which any decent computer auto-spellcheck would have caught for you.
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Old 08-17-2022, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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I understand the sense of ironic satisfaction some on the left feel over this but do you really think that a "bargain" where you have the Bible on one side and extremely graphic sexual material for children on the other makes the side pushing for the sexual material look good?
Books like Gender ***** and Lawn Boy are their Bibles today.
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Old 08-17-2022, 11:06 AM
 
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Books like Gender ***** and Lawn Boy are their Bibles today.
People need to remember that as the book wars continue.

Started with the push to make sure child porn in in public school libraries.
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Old 08-17-2022, 11:09 AM
 
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Books like Gender ***** and Lawn Boy are their Bibles today.
There's a lot of ignorance to go around. I've encountered Conservatives online who don't know that there are two books titled Lawn Boy and think the contested book by Jonathon Evison can be found in elementary schools because they've seen the Gary Paulsen book with the same title.

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Old 08-17-2022, 11:21 AM
 
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To Kill A Mockingbird has a rape in it.

Should that go also?
No, I am not in favor of banning books. That's your thing. But hey, if we're going to ban books like this then the Bible definitely needs to go.
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Old 08-17-2022, 11:23 AM
 
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No, I am not in favor of banning books. That's your thing. But hey, if we're going to ban books like this then the Bible definitely needs to go.
You think child porn belongs in public school libraries?
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Old 08-17-2022, 11:23 AM
 
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You think child porn belongs in public school libraries?
The Bible has a lot of rape and murder and you seem to think that's okay.
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Old 08-17-2022, 11:30 AM
 
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The Bible has a lot of rape and murder and you seem to think that's okay.

Again: You are A-OK with child porn in public school libraries?

Seriously? You're going to die on this hill? I can assume you don't want to answer the question because ....

Sick.
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