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Old 08-23-2022, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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You are buying into August polls. Wisconsin is notorious for being trash and oversampling Demwits.

Blake Masters has completely pivoted from MAGA since becoming the nominee. Oz is on the trail campaigning all over the state. Walker while stupid is the more likable of the 2 as Warnock's issues are becoming newsworthy.

Oil prices are set to rise again by the end of the year. Food prices aren't coming down fast enough. No student loan forgiveness or anything similar from the Demwits to GOTV for the youths.
You're right about polls, but who did Wisconsin vote for in 2020? Add to the mix how unpopular Roe V Wade is and you have a whole lot of energized women out there.

Food prices are coming down pretty fast here. I was surprised to find a whole chicken for around six dollars vs eighteen a few weeks ago. Gas is still coming down. True anything can happen, but I think most people realize that money comes and goes. Policy decisions can last a generation. Fanaticism, lies, conspiracy theories are not popular political strategies. Once the rubes realize they've been made fools of, they get angry.
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Old 08-23-2022, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Agreed. I supported Trump because of his pro-America policies not because I liked him personally. Yet the liberal left still calls us a cult. Policy is what will sink this country not personality.

I also agree that I'd rather Trump not run again as I don't want to hear the whining and crying by the left to that degree ever again. I just hope that we can elect someone who adheres to Trump's policies.
Yup, we want someone with policies and strong character like Trump, without his annoying and personally destructive personality trait faults. Trump's big mouth was many times his own worst enemy
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Old 08-23-2022, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Beautiful NNJ
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You're right about polls, but who did Wisconsin vote for in 2020? Add to the mix how unpopular Roe V Wade is and you have a whole lot of energized women out there.

Food prices are coming down pretty fast here. I was surprised to find a whole chicken for around six dollars vs eighteen a few weeks ago. Gas is still coming down. True anything can happen, but I think most people realize that money comes and goes. Policy decisions can last a generation. Fanaticism, lies, conspiracy theories are not popular political strategies. Once the rubes realize they've been made fools of, they get angry.
I wish the bolded were true of more people. “Pocketbook issues” may be the bread and butter of political campaigns, but for the good of the country, ourselves, our neighbors and the world we really need to take a longer view. It’s really dismaying to hear how many people care only for what specifically keeps more of their money in their pocket at the expense of literally everything else that matters to civil society.
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Old 08-24-2022, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I wish the bolded were true of more people. “Pocketbook issues” may be the bread and butter of political campaigns, but for the good of the country, ourselves, our neighbors and the world we really need to take a longer view. It’s really dismaying to hear how many people care only for what specifically keeps more of their money in their pocket at the expense of literally everything else that matters to civil society.
100%. That is true of the ultra rich as well. I get get it when people are struggling and can't pay their bills. I've been there, it's terrifying. That being said, I never blamed a president for it. I went out and got a second job and worked for it. I can relate to Republican's that insist we be self reliant. For those of us who can, we should. I can also relate to those that can't for legitimate reasons, and can relate to the Democrats evil socialism. Seriously, we help our people here. Yes there are abuses that need to be addressed, but this one size fits all mentality has to go away. So does all of this tribalism hate.
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Old 08-24-2022, 12:22 PM
 
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I wish the bolded were true of more people. “Pocketbook issues” may be the bread and butter of political campaigns, but for the good of the country, ourselves, our neighbors and the world we really need to take a longer view. It’s really dismaying to hear how many people care only for what specifically keeps more of their money in their pocket at the expense of literally everything else that matters to civil society.
This me, me, me selfish attitude upsets me to. I don't think of myself personally when I vote I vote on what is good for our citizens and country as a whole. Some people vote on what's only good for their race to and to hell with everyone else. That type of American makes me sick!
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Old 08-24-2022, 12:50 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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You mean like stacy abrhams and hillary clinton? Hmmm, seems like the lefties don't trust the election results either. I didn't notice liberals complaining when the whole dem party was blaming hillary's loss on Russian interference. I didn't notice them telling stacy to buck it up and concede. Spare me the partisanship, no one on either side trust the voting system in this country anymore, and likely with good reason.
You left out half my post which stated the left are the same, more or less. So just simmer down kiddo.
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Old 08-24-2022, 02:02 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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The vast majority of the democrat party hates Trump and wishes for God sake will he please go back to playing golf and counting his money.
No, they don't. They never shut up about him. Hatred of him is the bedrock of their personalities.

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The globalist, open border and endless war supporting GOP that leftists and Lincoln Project republicans tell us we should accept as an inevitability is not a GOP I am willing to support, and if continued support of MAGA policies ultimately destroys the Republican party, then the Republican party needed to be destroyed.

I don't care if the McCain/Romney/Cheney GOP has a better chance of winning, it is still not getting my support, so stop trying to tell us that supporting MAGA policies will lead to defeat. It won't get me or people like me to embrace your duplicitous insanity.
This is exactly where I stand. I will never vote for a globalist, regardless of political party. If my choice comes down to one globalist or another, then what difference does it make if the Democrats stay in power? Either way, I lose.
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Old 08-24-2022, 02:16 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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No, they don't. They never shut up about him. Hatred of him is the bedrock of their personalities.



This is exactly where I stand. I will never vote for a globalist, regardless of political party. If my choice comes down to one globalist or another, then what difference does it make if the Democrats stay in power? Either way, I lose.
Do support Trump? You know he's a globalist? He has business interests all over the globe.

World of Influence: A guide to Trump’s foreign business interests

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...ess-interests/
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Old 08-24-2022, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Gee, I wonder why that is. Oh yeah -- Impeachments are not criminal trials! Duh, how could I have forgotten that? Impeachments take place in the Congress, not in a court of law.
You are right, an impeachment is not a trial. It is more like an indictment. Once the House has impeached then the Senate holds the trial. But used properly impeachment is based on a crime. One can agree or disagree on whether Trump incited an insurrection, but that was the charge under the second impeachment. https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...ent/index.html
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