"Democracy is at risk" - What does that mean? (enemy, ethical)
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OMG!! Someone on trial lies trying to save their @ss? That NEVER happens.
Maybe they gave up when they realized Trump would not give them a presidential pardon. They did his bidding (in their own eyes) and Trump let them down.
Just because they said it doesn't mean it's so. Of course, they'd use it as a defense. They don't want to be held accountable for what they did but instead hope if they blame Trump they'll get off the hook. Could have been infiltrators to. It's not unlike leftists to do such a thing.
No, when someone makes a claim it's up to them to provide a viable link for proof not tell someone else to google it.
Only people who don't remember those news stories would have to google it, and only if they want to. This is not some new information that needs a link. Most of the posters on this forum follow the news. Most of them would remember.
You might want to google the difference between "to," "two" and "too."
It means that election interference by our weaponized institutions, if allowed to continue, will permanently destroy our election process.
Example: FBI had Hunter’s laptop and its contents, went to big tech (Zuckerberg explained that they had), lied to them stating posts about the laptop need to be censored because they’re Russian disinformation. And so they were.
FBI lied.
FBI election interference and big tech cooperation rigged the election.
I have zero faith that they won’t do it again.
What happened to state's rights? Aren't states supposed to be allowed to run the election in the manner they see fit?
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Only people who don't remember those news stories would have to google it, and only if they want to. This is not some new information that needs a link. Most of the posters on this forum follow the news. Most of them would remember.
You might want to google the difference between "to," "two" and "too."
You might want to google the use of singular and possessive plurals, and the difference between “states’ rights” and “state’s rights.”
This seems to be the refrain from the elite establishment and propaganda press.
For those that believe it's true - what does it mean?
What changed that Democracy is at risk now?
It’s right here…
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The members of the International Ethical, Political and Scientific Collegium intend to work on a number of concrete applications of the principles outlined in the general declaration. Far from being exhaustive, this first list may be regularly enriched with new themes that are considered to be priorities by the network that will be created through the Collegium, in particular by representatives of the world's civil society. An appeal for contributions may be launched in that sense. a. Invent democracy on a global scale
The horizontal logic of interdependence implies the recognition of the diversity of the roots of democratic cultures; its vertical logic implies the emergence of a common base adapted to the changes of our era. In this spirit, the Collegium could reflect upon the establishment of "indicators of democracy" (in the sense recommended by UNDP), and may also highlight whatever may contribute to the construction of a "global citizenship", from the civil society point of view.
b. Identify and protect world public assets
Interdependence implies the recognition of the "common property" character of certain world assets. In particular, the Collegium will focus its attention upon those assets whose preservation and distributionpresent major challenges. This is notably the case of:
drinking water;
- access to knowledge;
- agricultural food resources and the problem of genetically modified organisms as both
risks and opportunities;
- energy resources;
pharmaceutical products;
- public transport.
c. Construct the conditions and indicators of sustainable development Interdependence implies making the different time horizons coherent. However, the indicators that we possess today lead us to make short-term choices, contradicting already established mid and long-term objectives. A new approach to wealth and the adoption of new indicators appears therefore to be a necessity, so as to better integrate the ecological and social requirements of sustainable development.
d. Build a universalism of values
Between the affirmation of absolute relativism and the temptation to define universal ethics based on purely occidental foundations, the universality of values must be built on the basis of a dialogue among civilisations. A joint questioning of the great spiritual and moral authorities of this world (on matters of environment, ethics, and gender relations) could serve as a basis for this work. It would also allow the emergence of the foundations of a "mental ecology" and an education toward responsibility and global citizenship adapted to our times.
e. Guarantee economic and social rights
The concrete application of the principle of planetary inter-solidarity implies that economic, social and cultural rights are not separated from civil and political rights. Consequently, the WTO, the IMF and the World Bank would be obliged to respect the UN instruments concerning human rights, the conventions of the ILO concerning social rights and the international conventions on the environment. This legal fabric would be opposable to all economic players. Brussels, 2 April 2003
For the International Collegium::
ARIAS SANCHEZ Oscar, Nobel Prize for Peace, former President of Costa Rica
BARBER Benjamin,Professor, Political Analyst, USA
CARDOSO Fernando Henrique, former President of Brazil DREIFUSSRuth,FormerPresidentoftheSwiss Confederation
FRASER Malcolm, former Prime Minister, Australia
HABERMAS Jiirgen, Philosopher, Germany
KONARE Alpha Oumar, former President of Mali
SCHMIDT Helmut, Former Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany
KUCAN Milan, former President of Slovenia
MORIN Edgar, Philosopher, France
OGATA Sadako,/bmzer High Commissioner for H.C.R., Japan
ROBINSON Mary, President of Ethical Global Initiative, former President of Ireland ROCARD Michel, Chairman, Commissionfor Cultural Affairs, European Parliament, former Prime Minister of France
SEN Amartya, Economist, Nobel Prize, India
STIGLITZ Joseph, Economist, Nobel Prize, USA
Prince HASSAN BIN TALLAL, Jordan
VON WEIZSACKER, Richard, former President of the Federal Republic of Germany ATLAN Henri, Bio-physicist and philosopher, France
DELMAS-MARTY Mireille, UniversityLawProfessor, France;
HESSEL Stephane, Ambassador ofFranc OULDABDALLAHAhmedou,formerMinisterofForeignAffairs , Mauritania
SACHS Wolfgang, Economist, Chairman of Greenpeace, Germany
VANDEN HEUVEL William, Ambassador, Chairman, Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt Institute, USA
HABIBIE Bacharuddin Jusuf, Former President of Indonesia LIFTON Robert J., Professor, Cambridge University, Massachussets, USA
Hmm, Robert Jay Lifton, where have I heard that name before?
Oh, that’s right, he wrote extensively on totalitarian systems and grand-scale brainwashing programs.
Well, thankfully we don’t have to worry about some wide-scale diverse, equitable and inclusive brainwashing program. I don’t know if America and the West could survive something like that.
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It means there is no longer a US government. There is a conglomerate of private interest that don’t give two craps about what your elections come up with.
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Exporter of moral criteria
A vast and ambitious program, which does not frighten Michel Rocard, who was visiting Geneva recently to present it. "We are in a plot that we enjoy carrying out. It's a bet. But we are convinced that global regulation will not progress through hard law, by binding treaties, but rather by "soft" law, through open initiatives like this."
To do this, MP Rocard is not afraid to break the right-thinking taboos: "The West mainly provides aid to the Third World in the form of the export of moral standards and criteria. Our claim to say law and morality is doubtful. Take the case of corruption. For centuries, all our ministers have been great concussionists, but we would like Africa to solve this problem in thirty years. And we persist in creating expensive lifestyles that force the ruling classes of poor countries to get rich to hold their rank. I believe that corruption should be limited to 5% of gross national product. Below, it is a necessity, above it is theft that must be punished."
"In a global ethical project, we must be wary of definitions that are too simple and that only benefit those who established them, we must change the vocabulary, discard narrow morality. And tackle the big fish." This is the deep meaning of what has now been agreed on sustainable development. This concept, established by the Brundtland Commission on the initiative of former United Nations Secretary-General Perez de Cuellar, took twenty years to impose itself in vocabulary. Michel Rocard and his friends intend to implement it quickly.
Tribune of Geneva. March 7, 2012. By Alain Jourdan.
The former French Prime Minister was in Geneva yesterday to relay the call of the Collegium International.
Michel Rocard was alongside Stéphane Hessel yesterday in Geneva to present the "Call for solidarity and responsible global governance" written by the Collegium International. It is a synthesis of a very dense reflection conducted by intellectuals and former political leaders who have come to the conclusion that a "process of metamorphosis" must be initiated towards a "global community".
"I am aware that talking about global governance at the moment is incongruous," admits the former French Prime Minister. "But don't take us for idle dreamers who don't know how to fight," he warned. The Collegium International, of which it is the voice, advocates, among other things, the parenthesis of the concept of a nation-state. It would be "largely outdated" because it is unable to face the challenges of "interdependence" in a globalized world. Michel Rocard distinguishes four: global warming, financial bubbles, rising unemployment and precariousness, new crime.
Is there a more important and urgent economic problem than the survival of humanity? In 2050, the world will have about 9 billion inhabitants, all legitimately aspiring to the living standards of the currently developed peoples. However, the generalization of current European or American standards would require a quantity of resources representing 4 to 7 times those available to our planet without exhausting its productive heritage.
Um, there’s 8 billion people on the planet right now. If an American lifestyle is the “holy grail” that means the planet can only support like 1.5 billion people. It would seem there’s an imbalance somewhere… Hmm…
Do you think 6.5 billion people need to disappear? Do you think the 330 million Americans consuming 33% (and dropping fast via inflation) are going to lose their standard of living?
It’s a mixture of both and quite frankly the world looks too goddamn stupid to realize what’s going on even when quite literally it is spelled out for them.
JACL
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This seems to be the refrain from the elite establishment and propaganda press.
For those that believe it's true - what does it mean?
What changed that Democracy is at risk now?
Democracy is at risk because Republicans (sorry, but it's coming from Republicans), have been consistently and unethically tinkering to sabotage a level playing field. Some of the worst examples are: Gerrymandering so biased that it gets thrown out of court, legal maneuvering to try to invalidate a state's votes if Democrats win, promoting violence if Democrats win, threatening election workers, praising right-wing autocrats like Hitler, Putin, and Orban.
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