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Old 08-23-2022, 09:37 AM
 
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How about swing states changing their laws right before an election to allow for weeks of unsolicited, mass mail out ballots....not requiring signature verification and years of fighting against voter ID laws?

....."how convenient", indeed.
Those cases that were taken to court were upheld.

Must be a conspiracy i tell ya!
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Old 08-23-2022, 09:50 AM
 
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Because Democrats idea of democracy is pure mob rule.
Can you give a few examples of pure mob rule?
I’m not understanding how that is what is happening now.
Aren’t our elected officials and appointed judges the ones who are making the rules?
Which unauthorized mob is running things?
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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When you have a political party that is constantly trying to alter the constitution, THAT is a threat to our republic.
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Can you give a few examples of pure mob rule?
I’m not understanding how that is what is happening now.
Aren’t our elected officials and appointed judges the ones who are making the rules?
Which unauthorized mob is running things?



Deciding elections purely by the popular vote is mob rule.

Large groups of people in concentrated urban areas deciding policy that affects everyone else in smaller rural areas is mob rule.
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Democracy ( like many other terms ) is thrown around so much that it has lost much of its meaning , i.e. its typically used as a term to describe what the person using it deems to be good in relation to political issues , regardless of whether or not said political issues have anything to do with the actual proper definition of the term democracy .

That said to give a direct answer to your question , in the context you are describing the phrase " democracy is at risk " typically seems to signify the belief among supporters of the Democratic party and/or the contemporary mainstream American left wing in general that democracy in America is at risk of being overturned by supporters of the Republican party/supporters of Donald Trump/white supremacists , with all of the aforementioned categories often tending to be conflated into one giant whole by those who subscribe to this belief .

Of course those who employ this turn of phrase also forget to mention that the United States originally wasn't a democracy , with its Founders never in their wildest dreams wanting it to turn into one , but so much for historical truth on the part of those fond of coming up with falsehoods .

P.S. I'm not actually a supporter of the Republican party or Donald Trump , much less a white supremacist , however much of the political topics that pop up here lead me to criticize the Democratic party/ the mainstream American left wing more than these previously mentioned categories .


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Constitutional Republic:

A Constitutional Republic is a form of government where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people, representatives mandated to govern according to existing constitutional law. It is because of this mandate that the elected class in a Constitutional Republic is limited in their power over the citizenry. The United States of America was created as and intended to survive as a Constitutional Republic.

Our Constitutional Republic is separated into three separate but equal branches of government; the Executive, Legislative and Judicial, represented by the Presidency, Congress and the Courts. Because of this no branch has a rein on absolute power thus assuring that there will be checks and balances to the governmental system and protection for the rule of law.

Through the elected representation employed by our Constitutional Republic the influence of the majority is tempered by protections for individual rights as mandated by constitutional law. Our form of government is deliberate in its attempt to thwart majoritarianism, thereby protecting political dissent and individuals and minority groups from the "tyranny of the majority" by placing checks on the power of the majority of the population. The power of the majority of the people is checked by limiting that power to electing representatives who are required to legislate with limits of overarching constitutional law which a simple majority cannot modify.

"A pure unbridled democracy is a political system in which the majority enjoys absolute power by means of democratic elections. In an unvarnished democracy, unrestrained by a constitution, the majority can vote to impose tyranny on themselves and the minority opposition. They can vote to elect those who will infringe upon our inalienable God-given rights. Thomas Jefferson referred to this as elected despotism in Notes on the State of Virginia (also cited in Federalist 48 by Madison):"
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In a Democracy, the majority rules. If the majority decided they wanted your bike, they could take it. In a Republic, the bike is your property and you do not owe it to anyone. It cannot be taken against your will, by law. America is a Constitutional Republic. Therefore, the Constitution is the law by which we are supposed to be protected. In a Republic, the individual is protected FROM the majority, by the Constitutional law. A Constitutional Republic is what we were given. It is up to us to KEEP it.
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I am really tired of hearing Pelosi, Schumer, et al. yapping about "our democracy". No, there is no such thing anymore as "our democracy". What the country has is THEIR democracy and its intolerance of any thoughts or ideas that are different than theirs.
Nailed it!!!
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Those cases that were taken to court were upheld.

Must be a conspiracy i tell ya!


Just means the judge thought it was ok.

Doesn't mean it's actually ok.

And it certainly doesn't mean that Democrats didn't set up a system that makes it easier to commit fraud and harder to prove it.

It just means a partisan judge someplace isn't losing any sleep over it.


Look at it this way:

The Supreme Court just overturned Roe vs Wade

Do you think that's ok just because a court said so??
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The meaning of Democracy has been brutalized by the liberals. They care nothing about the American people or what we want in our country. They are determining what people need not necessarily what we want. They want to remain in power and continue to take control over the people, making government bigger and having those in office based on gender, ethnicity rather than qualifications.

" America is a republic and not a pure democracy. The contemporary efforts to weaken our republican customs and institutions in the name of greater equality thus run against the efforts by America’s Founders to defend our country from the potential excesses of democratic majorities. American republicanism and the ordered liberty it makes possible are grounded in the Federalists’ recognition that non-majoritarian parts of the community make legitimate contributions to the community’s welfare, and that preserving these contributions is the hallmark of political justice. But, the careful balance produced by our mixed republic is threatened by an egalitarianism that undermines the social, familial, religious, and economic distinctions and inequalities that undergird our political liberty. Preserving the republican freedoms we cherish requires tempering egalitarian zeal and moderating the hope for a perfectly just democracy." Bernard Dobski, Ph.D.
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:20 AM
 
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Literal or should I say Liberal translation = I hate those good ol boys and their guns. Damn that Constitution!



You mean like those good ole boys on Jan6 chanting "Hang Mike Pence". And killing few cops in process. LOL yep thats right wing democracy, and they think its alright long as they are in charge. This idea of whites becoming a minority scares them poopless. So democracy has to go and anoint the Orange King for life.
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Once again we are not a democracy we are a constitutional republic!!!
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