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Old 08-23-2022, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Sleepy Joe definitely has it going on. Aghan debacle, skyrocketing Bidenflation, skyrocketing violent crime, border crisis, etc..,, and let’s not forget war…and I gotta admit, slurring his words, wandering off, falling upstairs, falling off his bicycle, etc…, he’s great at…but no mean tweets.
All True but the majority see Trump for what he is and anything is better than Trump.

 
Old 08-23-2022, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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All True but the majority see Trump for what he is and anything is better than Trump.
At least you admit it. Quite disturbing especially that you accept war because Sleepy Joe couldn’t keep the peace like his predecessor.

Hurt feelings and mean tweets far outweigh the countless debacles we’ve seen by Sleepy Joe in the last 17 months, but I do understand because Trump has consumed Dems souls and hurt their feelings beyond repair that they defend Sleepy Joe. After all, the same folks can’t stop talking about because Trump.
 
Old 08-23-2022, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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Sometimes I really wonder who is getting polled in these things...
 
Old 08-23-2022, 08:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Bureaucat View Post
Top issues for 2022:

1. Threats to Democracy = 21%
2. Cost of living = 16%
3. Jobs and the economy = 14%

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...acing-us-poll/


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022...ue-in-midterms

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/am...ds-11661112511

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-82122-release

Also, 57% think investigations of Trump should continue while 40% want them stopped.
Americans watched as Trump made phone calls to state officials, trying to coerce them to throw out their votes. They heard Trump rile up a crowd of sycophants and send them to storm our capitol, and watched in horror in real time as his supporters violently broke down doors to get at lawmakers in an attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power. They watched as the FBI retrieved top secret files Trump stole and refused to return.

Americans know exactly where the threat to our democracy is coming from. It's been front and center for two years now.

No one associated with Donald Trump or who supports him should be elected/reelected. Our democracy depends on it.
 
Old 08-23-2022, 08:48 AM
 
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Nothing has been done with infrastructure (i know roads and bridges are racist) nor "climate change" lol. All his admin has done is print god only knows now much money and laundered all of over the place.
Biden is laundering money? Roads and bridges are racist? Give us a clue as to what exactly you`re babbling about.
 
Old 08-23-2022, 10:22 AM
 
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haha yeah right. "Threats to democracy" over the economy?

BS.

"Threats to democracy" is probably right below "Climate Change" as the 20th and 21st most important thing in a normal voter's mind.
 
Old 08-23-2022, 10:54 AM
 
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Americans watched as Trump made phone calls to state officials, trying to coerce them to throw out their votes. They heard Trump rile up a crowd of sycophants and send them to storm our capitol, and watched in horror in real time as his supporters violently broke down doors to get at lawmakers in an attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power. They watched as the FBI retrieved top secret files Trump stole and refused to return.

Americans know exactly where the threat to our democracy is coming from. It's been front and center for two years now.

No one associated with Donald Trump or who supports him should be elected/reelected. Our democracy depends on it.
Perfectly accurate summary of the situation but the threat from the Radical Right began long before Trump became a contender for President. This goes way back to the years before WWII and the Business Plot against Roosevelt, on through the 50's 60's and 70's right up until the modern populist uprising that led to Trump.

The Left in the USA has never been particularly well organized, and even when we had a radical Left in the 1960's they were a flash in the pan. Democrats have steadily been pushed Rightward/centrist since those days. So much so that the typical Democrat today is politically similar to a Republican of the early 1970's.

Right wing movements (fascist, nationalist, authoritarian, choose the word you want) have by far been the greatest threat to democracy and freedom for the last 100 years. Not to mention the greatest threat to the general public here in the USA today for acts of domestic terrorism.

I think it is very likely that Trump or a Trump sycophant will be elected as President, or will seize the throne via coup either in 2024 or 2028. At that point, America as we once knew it will be done. They are fully prepared to establish the most powerful police state ever seen in world history, and to turn that enormous power against the "enemies of the state" (read, anyone that does not toe the Party line).

It's hard to know exactly how this movie will end, but it's not like we don't know where nationalism/fascism eventually will take us. Just look at the catastrophe of WWII for an example. Odds are we are moving toward something of that nature, the USA will be a sitting duck for our enemies if Trump or his successor succeed in tearing apart our Constitution and dividing us all irreparably.
 
Old 08-23-2022, 10:57 AM
 
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haha yeah right. "Threats to democracy" over the economy?

BS.

"Threats to democracy" is probably right below "Climate Change" as the 20th and 21st most important thing in a normal voter's mind.
And we have enough trees. Who needs more.
Thats from the trump endorsed candidate.
Lots of gems like that. Haha
 
Old 08-23-2022, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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We are not a Democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic.

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Constitutional Republic:

A Constitutional Republic is a form of government where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people, representatives mandated to govern according to existing constitutional law. It is because of this mandate that the elected class in a Constitutional Republic is limited in their power over the citizenry. The United States of America was created as and intended to survive as a Constitutional Republic.

Our Constitutional Republic is separated into three separate but equal branches of government; the Executive, Legislative and Judicial, represented by the Presidency, Congress and the Courts. Because of this no branch has a rein on absolute power thus assuring that there will be checks and balances to the governmental system and protection for the rule of law.

Through the elected representation employed by our Constitutional Republic the influence of the majority is tempered by protections for individual rights as mandated by constitutional law. Our form of government is deliberate in its attempt to thwart majoritarianism, thereby protecting political dissent and individuals and minority groups from the "tyranny of the majority" by placing checks on the power of the majority of the population. The power of the majority of the people is checked by limiting that power to electing representatives who are required to legislate with limits of overarching constitutional law which a simple majority cannot modify.

"A pure unbridled democracy is a political system in which the majority enjoys absolute power by means of democratic elections. In an unvarnished democracy, unrestrained by a constitution, the majority can vote to impose tyranny on themselves and the minority opposition. They can vote to elect those who will infringe upon our inalienable God-given rights. Thomas Jefferson referred to this as elected despotism in Notes on the State of Virginia (also cited in Federalist 48 by Madison):"
 
Old 08-23-2022, 11:16 AM
 
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We are not a Democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic.
Trotting out that ridiculous chestnut again? I am surprised it took so long, this is always good for a laugh. Whether you like it or not, we are BOTH a Constitutional Republic AND a representative democracy. The two go hand in hand here in the United States. You can't separate them, as much as it might help to support the argument for a radical right-wing minority to establish a one-party authoritarian state.
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