Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 08-27-2022, 01:12 PM
 
1,216 posts, read 510,017 times
Reputation: 1448

Advertisements

AA, racial, gender discrimination in hiring and university applications needs to end. It's supposed to be illegal. The largest offender in these practices is government. The Dems would genocide or jettison all whites (except for a small elite ruling class) if they could get away with it.

 
Old 08-27-2022, 04:39 PM
 
4,031 posts, read 4,462,284 times
Reputation: 1886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl Lagos View Post
AA, racial, gender discrimination in hiring and university applications needs to end. It's supposed to be illegal. The largest offender in these practices is government. The Dems would genocide or jettison all whites (except for a small elite ruling class) if they could get away with it.


California banned affirmative action and Whites are still being discriminated against.
 
Old 08-27-2022, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
3,410 posts, read 4,466,382 times
Reputation: 3286
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Coe View Post
California banned affirmative action and Whites are still being discriminated against.
How so? Are you of the belief there's some secret admissions shenanigans at public California universities to let in more people of Asian descent at the expense of White people?
 
Old 08-28-2022, 05:14 AM
 
59,017 posts, read 27,290,738 times
Reputation: 14270
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Coe View Post
California banned affirmative action yet anti-White discrimination is worse.
"California banned affirmative action yet" still have "sanctuary cities"! Which are also AGAINST the law.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 05:30 AM
 
5,978 posts, read 2,234,032 times
Reputation: 4612
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Coe View Post
California banned affirmative action and Whites are still being discriminated against.
No, Asians are just kicking their butts. The truth is when Affirmative Action is ended you will see little change in White enrollment in top Universities and Private colleges, but you will see Asian enrollment spike.

Eliminating Affirmative Action does not change Ivy League schools allowing legacy applicants direct entry or accepting students because their parents made generous donations to the school's endowment which is also unfair to the rest of the applicants. So spots will still be very limited. African American students only make up about 9% of accepted freshmen in the Ivy League system so 1000s of spots are not going to suddenly open up, and I imagine many of those students would have been accepted either way given the high bar for entry even with affirmative action.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ges-2020-06-25

I do believe Affirmative Action will go away within the next 20 years but I don't think you will see much change in enrollment levels at most state schools for White Students as many here seem to ellude too, especially when the Community college to University pathway is used more and more and offers near-automatic admission acceptance if grades are good in many states.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
10,453 posts, read 4,035,751 times
Reputation: 8469
Quote:
Originally Posted by YourWakeUpCall View Post
Interesting. Do you apply this same logic to the alleged voter suppression tactics Dems accuse Repubs of using? For example: Requiring an ID to vote doesn't specify only POCs need to do so, therefore it's not racist? Is that your belief? Looking for some consistency here.
I also want to know when they do the census poll, why do they have the option of "white non Hispanic or Latino" but they hardly have that for "black non Hispanic or Latino"? And also, why is it if a person is mixed, society will group the person as a black person. Take for instance Barrack Obama and Kamala Harris. Neither are fully black. They are indeed mixed, so technically they are not the first black president and vice president. They are the first mixed.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 12:21 PM
 
4,031 posts, read 4,462,284 times
Reputation: 1886
Quote:
Originally Posted by TylerJAX View Post
How so? Are you of the belief there's some secret admissions shenanigans at public California universities to let in more people of Asian descent at the expense of White people?

The author of this article seems to think so. He makes a valid point that outright affirmative action reduces or freezes Asian enrollment while California's model increased Asian enrollment while reducing White enrollment.



"With quota based affirmative action, both Whites and Asians are penalized. However, the use of personal admissions essays and selective recruitment strategies grants admissions greater discretion than with quotas. Woke admissions officers might view Whites as more privileged than Asians. There is a delicate balancing act between racial equity concerns focused on BIPOC and concerns from Asian American advocacy groups about discrimination. This balancing act, which likely influences admissions, may have played some role in sacrificing White enrollment."


https://robertstark.substack.com/p/w...rmative-action
 
Old 08-28-2022, 12:23 PM
 
4,031 posts, read 4,462,284 times
Reputation: 1886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryl_G View Post
No, Asians are just kicking their butts. The truth is when Affirmative Action is ended you will see little change in White enrollment in top Universities and Private colleges, but you will see Asian enrollment spike.

Eliminating Affirmative Action does not change Ivy League schools allowing legacy applicants direct entry or accepting students because their parents made generous donations to the school's endowment which is also unfair to the rest of the applicants. So spots will still be very limited. African American students only make up about 9% of accepted freshmen in the Ivy League system so 1000s of spots are not going to suddenly open up, and I imagine many of those students would have been accepted either way given the high bar for entry even with affirmative action.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ges-2020-06-25

I do believe Affirmative Action will go away within the next 20 years but I don't think you will see much change in enrollment levels at most state schools for White Students as many here seem to ellude too, especially when the Community college to University pathway is used more and more and offers near-automatic admission acceptance if grades are good in many states.


Asians outperform all other groups academically but both Asians and non-Asian non-White numbers increased while Whites declined in California UCs.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 12:49 PM
gg
 
Location: Pittsburgh
26,137 posts, read 25,969,691 times
Reputation: 17378
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Coe View Post
"If SCOTUS bans affirmative action, universities will find ways to promote BIPOC anyway, so "Maybe White conservatives ... should lobby for fair representation[Whites: 18%]. Where Whites are a minority, such as California, it makes sense for Whites to embrace multiculturalism."



https://robertstark.substack.com/p/w...rmative-action
Whites are the overwhelming majority in the US at over 70%. You wouldn’t know it with how the Democratic Party acts. Not to mention Hollywood. I feel like I’m a minority in the US. Sad.
 
Old 09-02-2022, 03:58 PM
 
3,538 posts, read 1,327,273 times
Reputation: 1462
Quote:
Originally Posted by bu2 View Post
Here's the reality. In the Ivy League their "affirmative action" hurts most Asian Americans and white women.
And in other places those same Asians and white women benefit from Affirmative action. Again, Affirmative Action is worded so that it's not exclusively for black people. It's doesn't even heavily benefit black people. But what the right-wingers tell each other is "black people use Affirmative Action for everything, and blacks are the only ones able to use it" which is 100% false.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:11 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top