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Old 09-10-2022, 04:38 PM
 
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No, I mean it. The argument starts in bad faith when one makes such vague connotational comments like that at the very beginning. How many people support this out of the entire US population, really?

My question should reveal a lot. What is wokeness? It's my understanding that wokeness is originally to the understanding of USA's dark racist/prejudice history regarding slavery and its aftermath.

Does that lead to pedophilia?

Let's expand the definition: homosexual/bisexual people should have every right to sexual/romantic relations. Does that lead to pedophilia??

How about: USA is perhaps not the force-for-good country we were raised to believe via arguably propaganda, and has potentially committed war crimes, like many countries have throughout history? Does this line of thinking lead to... normalization of pedophilia???

Do you understand why I criticize the initial question now? It's not a pedophilia-induced deflection, I promise you. Let's define "wokeness" first".
There is no such thing as a bad faith argument when it comes to child predators. You are either for it or against it. This is one topic that is CLEARLY black and white. There is only one right side and you are either on it or not. While I am sure not every pedophile is a liberal or leftist, the people who are supporting this crazy MAP stuff come from the left. And yes, they are woke progressives. Progressives are deconstructionists and deconstructionists want to remove any norm from society including the traditional disdain for pedophilia.
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Old 09-10-2022, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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There is no such thing as a bad faith argument when it comes to child predators. You are either for it or against it. This is one topic that is CLEARLY black and white. There is only one right side and you are either on it or not. While I am sure not every pedophile is a liberal or leftist, the people who are supporting their crazy MAP stuff come from the left. And yes, they are woke progressives. Progressives are deconstructionists and deconstructionists want to remove any norm from society including pedophilia.
STRAWMAN. I am not advocating for pedophilia. I BELIEVE PEDOPHILIA IS IMMORAL. I am questioning what people mean (as well as the intent) by the absurdly vague blanket statement of "wokeness causes pedophilia". We're not arguing on the same plane, you are being willfully obtuse.

Moral deconstructionism, now we're getting somewhere. Is that exactly what "wokeness" means to you? And do you think it is a slippery slope to make one thing ok that was previously not ok, thus leading to moral nihilism and lack of any social norm?
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Old 09-10-2022, 04:47 PM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Well she's wrong. They're actually the second most vilified people in our culture, right behind Trump supporters.
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Old 09-10-2022, 05:07 PM
 
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STRAWMAN. I am not advocating for pedophilia. I BELIEVE PEDOPHILIA IS IMMORAL. I am questioning what people mean (as well as the intent) by the absurdly vague blanket statement of "wokeness causes pedophilia". We're not arguing on the same plane, you are being willfully obtuse.

Moral deconstructionism, now we're getting somewhere. Is that exactly what "wokeness" means to you? And do you think it is a slippery slope to make one thing ok that was previously not ok, thus leading to moral nihilism and lack of any social norm?
Wokeness doesn’t cause pedophilia. I never said that and have not seen anyone say that, but I could have missed it. What is true, is the increasing sexualization of children including the rise of MAP is from the progressive left.

There may be different flavors of deconstructionism. The flavor I am talking about is what is on clear display from many on the left today. There are even some high ranking democrats who have directly supported people and organizations that have said they are against the constitution, the US and the traditional family. Tear it all down, defund the police, men can get pregnant, men can compete against girls, are things we hear regularly from the left. There is now a voice from the left (albeit small at this point) that want us to be inclusive of MAPs.
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Old 09-10-2022, 05:13 PM
 
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Wokeness doesn’t cause pedophilia. I never said that and have not seen anyone say that, but I could have missed it. What is true, is the increasing sexualization of children including the rise of MAP is from the progressive left.

There may be different flavors of deconstructionism. The flavor I am talking about is what is on clear display from many on the left today. There are even some high ranking democrats who have directly supported people and organizations that have said they are against the constitution, the US and the traditional family. Tear it all down, defund the police, men can get pregnant, men can compete against girls, are things we hear regularly from the left. There is now a voice from the left (albeit small at this point) that want us to be inclusive of MAPs.

The increased normalization of pedophilia is caused by wokeness. Does the splitting hairs of semantics matter? Are children less affected by it if we play the semantic game?

And wokeness, of course, supports pedophilia. No one needs to know any academic theory to see that.
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Old 09-10-2022, 05:17 PM
 
Location: California
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Well she's wrong. They're actually the second most vilified people in our culture, right behind Trump supporters.
I was going to ask....MAP vs MAGA, who's ACTUALLY more vilified right now?
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Old 09-10-2022, 05:24 PM
 
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MAPS ok how about DOAs
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Old 09-10-2022, 05:25 PM
 
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What exactly do you mean normalization? What exactly is being normalized?
Go read the many, many, many threads on how children are being preyed upon sexually by adults. Under the guise of entertainment and education.

Increased. Normalization.

Can't be any clearer.
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Old 09-10-2022, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I would bet this counselor has quite a few skeletons in her closet. Disgusting defense of pedos.
In normal times she'he/they/err would lose their license and be removed from their job. They would certainly not get a hot mic and be free to spew their illness.

Sexualizing children, these are the worst of sins and our nation will not long survive such madness.
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Old 09-10-2022, 07:16 PM
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The left are just pushing to normalize sex with children.
10 years from now it’ll be legal to bang your 9 year old neighbors kid.
Just watch. It’s coming.
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