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Old 08-28-2022, 03:54 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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This is a masterpiece of an article. Finally got a mainstream media article that tells the truth we’ve been screaming since we elected Trump.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/how-mi...arned-disdain/

The war between blue and red and mass versus elite is really grounded in the reality that those who feel they were the deserved winners of globalization and who are the sole enlightened on matters of social, economic, political, and military policy have no record of recent success, but a long litany of utter failure.

 
Old 08-28-2022, 06:48 AM
 
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Can we eliminate the term elite?.
They are anything but, and I certainly would not hire them.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Can we eliminate the term elite?.
They are anything but, and I certainly would not hire them.

They are not elite but they certainly act like they are. It is like being elected suddenly puts them above us so they can talk down to us instead of talking with us.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 07:02 AM
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OP, you are so hoodwinked.

There has never been a time in the US where everyone - even the very most wealthy and educated - didn't understand and appreciate the value of farmers, truck drivers, mechanics, plumbers, carpenters, etc. Never.

That you have taken on a leader who is NONE of those things - he's the most elite of the elite, the most privileged of the privileged, the one born with the silverest spoon in his mouth - and you have championed him as "one of the little guys" is astonishing. And you've imagined that the "rest" of the elite is against the working class, although this leader of the elites is on your side.

You've swallowed the bait, hook line and sinker and you don't realize it.

This is so completely backward, so farcical, that the understanding gap is too wide to bridge.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 07:04 AM
 
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OP, you are so hoodwinked.

There has never been a time in the US where everyone - even the very most wealthy and educated - didn't understand and appreciate the value of farmers, truck drivers, mechanics, plumbers, carpenters, etc. Never.

That you have taken on a leader who is NONE of those things - he's the most elite of the elite, the most privileged of the privileged, the one born with the silverest spoon in his mouth - and you have championed him as "one of the little guys" is astonishing.

You've swallowed the bait, hook line and sinker and you don't realize it.
What type of person defends our corrupt, dysfunctional government?
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:10 AM
 
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OP, you are so hoodwinked.

There has never been a time in the US where everyone - even the very most wealthy and educated - didn't understand and appreciate the value of farmers, truck drivers, mechanics, plumbers, carpenters, etc. Never.

That you have taken on a leader who is NONE of those things - he's the most elite of the elite, the most privileged of the privileged, the one born with the silverest spoon in his mouth - and you have championed him as "one of the little guys" is astonishing. And you've imagined that the "rest" of the elite is against the working class, although this leader of the elites is on your side.

You've swallowed the bait, hook line and sinker and you don't realize it.

This is so completely backward, so farcical, that the understanding gap is too wide to bridge.



This will be a bit of unorthodox post, if your sources are Wiki and CNN et al but, you are wrong about what middle class is. Middle class is not carpenters and farmers. It is not income definition, that's what they want you to believe. It is mental, mindset definition. It is successful people that worked hard to achieve certain status in life. And, a lot of them are small business owners. Their principles are - work hard, be independent, be master of yourself, stand for peace and order, stand for solid family. And THAT is why they irritate Elite so much. Because they do not want to lose their personal freedoms, families and their status.

That is why IRS is arming up as I type - to go after them. As, after religion is killed, after middle class is erased, there will only be left amorphous, caring only about sports/rock'n'roll/pleasures lower class and Elite, with strictly limited layer of their servants.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 08:26 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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OP, you are so hoodwinked.

There has never been a time in the US where everyone - even the very most wealthy and educated - didn't understand and appreciate the value of farmers, truck drivers, mechanics, plumbers, carpenters, etc. Never.

That you have taken on a leader who is NONE of those things - he's the most elite of the elite, the most privileged of the privileged, the one born with the silverest spoon in his mouth - and you have championed him as "one of the little guys" is astonishing. And you've imagined that the "rest" of the elite is against the working class, although this leader of the elites is on your side.

You've swallowed the bait, hook line and sinker and you don't realize it.

This is so completely backward, so farcical, that the understanding gap is too wide to bridge.
The majority of the elite are against the working and middle class Americans, or rather their actions are - pure plain and simple. They care only about their profits.

What do you call signing "free trade" deals with foreign nations, especially mercantilist Asian countries when you already know the result is going to be an increased trade deficit with them before the ink is dry? Just so some corporation or billionaire can have increased profits?

Or open borders and illegal immigration at a time of high rents and housing prices? Of course, the wealthy are not affected by the increase in crime/criminal gangs or the competition for jobs.

You can knock Trump but he was one of the first ones to stand up to the Establishment. Some of us saw that, some of us fell for the "Orange Man Bad" propaganda.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 09:22 AM
 
Location: My house
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see we will never be able to get out of our own way because of the allegiance to the msm talking points. hopefully left and right cam unite on the fact that a good place to start is with grassroots candidates who aren’t bought and paid for by dark money
 
Old 08-28-2022, 09:28 AM
 
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One of the problems with the American establishment is that it does not draw enough people from technical fields. Look at the central committee of the Chinese communist party... Many are scientists and engineers. The ranks of Congress are staffed with business managers and most of all lawyers.

You can argue that we want the government to be weak and ineffective, and staffing it with people who are out of their depths is good. I disagree given the numerous problems our country faces with government competency.

The main reason government doesn't work anymore is that the problems it faces, and to the machinery we have built to manage those problems, are too complex for the human managers sitting in policy making bodies and in the bureaucracy. The SEC gets outwitted by Wall Street, the NLRB by corporations, the DoD gets taken to the cleaners by defense contractors.
 
Old 08-28-2022, 09:42 AM
 
Location: My house
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OP, you are so hoodwinked.

There has never been a time in the US where everyone - even the very most wealthy and educated - didn't understand and appreciate the value of farmers, truck drivers, mechanics, plumbers, carpenters, etc. Never.

That you have taken on a leader who is NONE of those things - he's the most elite of the elite, the most privileged of the privileged, the one born with the silverest spoon in his mouth - and you have championed him as "one of the little guys" is astonishing. And you've imagined that the "rest" of the elite is against the working class, although this leader of the elites is on your side.

You've swallowed the bait, hook line and sinker and you don't realize it.

This is so completely backward, so farcical, that the understanding gap is too wide to bridge.
Aside from the condescending nature of the bolded, the fact that people like Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, etals are "fighting for the little guy" is completely lost on certain people. And lawsuit after lawsuit, committee after committee, council after special council all pointing to the one non-politician who wasn't part of the legacy party is the one to blame?

I have said it before and I will say it again, Obama and Trump won the Presidency for the same reasons. People have a low approval of the status quo coming from washington. That is both on the left and right. It's about the only thing we can both agree on. For some reason, we keep the legacy politicians in power. It is quite hard for new candidates to go against the establishment. Then they quickly succumb to the whims of the legacy politicians. Those who entered to make a difference quickly find out that they have to play along or their career will be over. Politics should never be a career. That needs to be fixed. That is why term limiting Congress is a wonderful place to start. It takes lots of fortitude to vote them out in the primary, but if you are unhappy at the status quo, the only thing to do is to vote differently on the party you align with. It is the only way to shake things up. Otherwise, more of the same will happen.
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