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Old 08-28-2022, 09:49 AM
 
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A major oil refinery in Indiana has been shut down due to a loss of power, and that is causing gas, diesel, & other fuel shortages across 4 upper midwestern states:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...wn-2022-08-27/
Lossof power was from a fire there. Are you suggesting it was arson?
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Old 08-28-2022, 09:57 AM
 
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What happens when Biden shuts them all down?
Good question. Its terrifying what he is trying to do and OMG we are in so much trouble if somehow the evil left maintains a majority in the house and they gain 2 senate seats.

Vote for the GOP to save our country from socialism. The upcoming November 8 midterms are the most important mid terms ever in my life time and I am only 38 years old. They are most important mid terms probably since the great depression at least to ensure evil left does not have control of both chambers or we are on path of severe destruction of freedom and capitalisms and on way to socialism hell!!
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Old 08-28-2022, 10:41 AM
 
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Good question. Its terrifying what he is trying to do and OMG we are in so much trouble if somehow the evil left maintains a majority in the house and they gain 2 senate seats.

Vote for the GOP to save our country from socialism. The upcoming November 8 midterms are the most important mid terms ever in my life time and I am only 38 years old. They are most important mid terms probably since the great depression at least to ensure evil left does not have control of both chambers or we are on path of severe destruction of freedom and capitalisms and on way to socialism hell!!

Are you serious?

I was on that same thought train years ago when I got caught up in the John Birch Society.

It finally occurred to me that my neighbors, friends, relatives and fellow citizens had the exact same rights and responsibilities that all American citizens have.

And they were neither bad people or evil because they had lived a different experience than I had.

I hope you find some peace, not so much fear.

Live long and prosper.
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Old 08-28-2022, 11:37 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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A major oil refinery in Indiana has been shut down due to a loss of power, and that is causing gas, diesel, & other fuel shortages across 4 upper midwestern states:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...wn-2022-08-27/
Maybe they can all practice for the future....figure out how to live with ZERO oil.
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Old 08-28-2022, 12:51 PM
 
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Maybe they can all practice for the future....figure out how to live with ZERO oil.
My first choice would be to stop the waste. Properly inflated tires and driving sensibly in gasoline efficient vehicles would be a start. Bet we'd save 10% without even noticing.

How many of us drive like we are a in a race to next traffic signal? I see it all day every day.
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Old 08-28-2022, 01:00 PM
 
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Are you serious?

I was on that same thought train years ago when I got caught up in the John Birch Society.

It finally occurred to me that my neighbors, friends, relatives and fellow citizens had the exact same rights and responsibilities that all American citizens have.

And they were neither bad people or evil because they had lived a different experience than I had.

I hope you find some peace, not so much fear.

Live long and prosper.
I am serious. Look at how far left democrats have become. They tried passing some very bad stuff like Better me or something that only Manchin opposed and they also tried to get rid of fillibuster and thank god Manchin stopped that.

If such a case of dems gaining enough power were to happen and we do not have a Joe Manchin like democrat (There are fewer and fewer these days) to stop the madness, only the supreme court may be able to save us from green new deal and socialism. You thought Obama Care and its mandate or tax penalty for not having enough health insurance was bad. It was nothing remotely close to how bad things could get if the far left gains too much power in both chambers in today's day and age. Wake up. These 2022 mid terms are extremely important that the dems do not maintain control of both chambers of congress.
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Old 08-28-2022, 01:04 PM
 
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Maybe they can all practice for the future....figure out how to live with ZERO oil.
ICE vehicle owners and auto companies and the natural gas industry and the like will march on Washington before any evil greenies and socialists in the government do that to us.

Well if you are talking about running out of oil and having none left that is another mater all together.
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Old 08-28-2022, 01:09 PM
 
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I am serious. Look at how far left democrats have become. They tried passing some very bad stuff like Better me or something that only Manchin opposed and they also tried to get rid of fillibuster and thank god Manchin stopped that.

If such a case of dems gaining enough power were to happen and we do not have a Joe Manchin like democrat (There are fewer and fewer these days) to stop the madness, only the supreme court may be able to save us from green new deal and socialism. You thought Obama Care and its mandate or tax penalty for not having enough health insurance was bad. It was nothing remotely close to how bad things could get if the far left gains too much power in both chambers in today's day and age. Wake up. These 2022 mid terms are extremely important that the dems do not maintain control of both chambers of congress.
You have defined one of the reasons I think one man, one vote democracy is mob rule. But, imo, the dark money and PAC funded disinformation campaigns involved in electioneering and voting are equally as dangerous.
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Old 08-28-2022, 01:19 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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My first choice would be to stop the waste. Properly inflated tires and driving sensibly in gasoline efficient vehicles would be a start. Bet we'd save 10% without even noticing.

How many of us drive like we are a in a race to next traffic signal? I see it all day every day.
We're being moved to wind and solar.
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Old 08-28-2022, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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A major oil refinery in Indiana has been shut down due to a loss of power, and that is causing gas, diesel, & other fuel shortages across 4 upper midwestern states:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...wn-2022-08-27/
And at the rate Biden is going, when or if we actually do have a domestic energy crisis in the US that harms US oil and gas production, we will not have any strategic reserves left. Biden is wasting our oil reserves to lower prices a few pennies, to improve his popularity ratings in the polls.
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