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Old 09-03-2022, 06:39 AM
 
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Where the Central American families are running from fear of gang violence

The Norway immigrants a family that opened a new artificial intelligence medical care technology and wants to expand the product through say Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and obtain green card visa and then expand a franchise into the US and improve American consumerism
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:44 AM
 
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Where the Central American families are running from fear of gang violence

The Norway immigrants a family that opened a new artificial intelligence medical care technology and wants to expand the product through say Mayo Clinic in Minnesota
I'm not familiar with the example you are describing but, assuming it is true, it is one family. Why should that impact immigration policy writ large regarding specific nationalities?
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:46 AM
 
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I'm not familiar with the example you are describing but, assuming it is true, it is one family. Why should that impact immigration policy writ large regarding specific nationalities?
Good I agree with you, Trump doesn’t
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:50 AM
 
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had no idea Norway was on our border.
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:51 AM
 
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Where the Central American families are running from fear of gang violence

The Norway immigrants a family that opened a new artificial intelligence medical care technology and wants to expand the product through say Mayo Clinic in Minnesota
Fear of gang violence is not a viable asylum claim and there lays one of the differences. One can always move to a different part of their own country or asylum seekers are supposed to seek refuge in the first country that offers that they enter but instead they all flee to the U.S.

Another difference is that those from Central America and Mexico fleeing here are the poor, unskilled and uneducated that are a burden to our society. Those you refer to in your second paragraph are not.
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:54 AM
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Fear of gang violence is not a viable asylum claim and there lays one of the differences. One can always move to a different part of their own country or asylum seekers are supposed to seek refuge in the first country that offers that they enter but instead they all flee to the U.S.

Another difference is that those from Central America and Mexico fleeing here are the poor, unskilled and uneducated that are a burden to our society. Those you refer to in your second paragraph are not.
.. or call a cop.
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:02 AM
 
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The Immigration Act of 1965 killed our country. Ted Kennedy and Dean Rusk, Democrats of course, lied to us all, they said that this bill (Hart Celler Act) would not change the fabric of our country. They either straight up lied or were incompetent, take your pick.

Ted Kennedy on the floor of the Senate, “Our cities will not be flooded with immigrants…”. What a piece of work he was.

They vastly underestimated chain migration. Or they knew what would happen, but figured they’d be long in the grave by the time it got really bad in our country.

I’ll bet you that if every voter back in 1964 had a glimpse of what was to come of our country, they would’ve rioted in the streets to stop it.

Multiculturalism does not work. Calling me a racist for posting that doesn’t change the fact that it does not work.
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:33 AM
 
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The Immigration Act of 1965 killed our country. Ted Kennedy and Dean Rusk, Democrats of course, lied to us all, they said that this bill (Hart Celler Act) would not change the fabric of our country. They either straight up lied or were incompetent, take your pick.

Ted Kennedy on the floor of the Senate, “Our cities will not be flooded with immigrants…”. What a piece of work he was.

They vastly underestimated chain migration. Or they knew what would happen, but figured they’d be long in the grave by the time it got really bad in our country.

I’ll bet you that if every voter back in 1964 had a glimpse of what was to come of our country, they would’ve rioted in the streets to stop it.

Multiculturalism does not work. Calling me a racist for posting that doesn’t change the fact that it does not work.
It does work but we need to put more emphasis on the economic trade offs of decisions made and ask ourselves if it is good for the US economy. If we are taking in poor refugees that can be a win-win but we need to fast-track them through areas of employment assessing where they are trained at home, so that source of compensation they work for by doing a daytime job, more than replaces resources being used to cover their welfare. This is the right approach. Sometimes we can be altruistic but when we go that route we need to ask ourselves what CAN we do to minimize the taxpayer cost of these decisions and not just wastefully pay for all their healthcare and housing and pose no required end of the bargain that they need to fulfill in order to stay.
We should not make it hard for asylum seekers to find jobs in America they are qualified to do because that’s not a punishment on them it’s a punishment on us to have to use taxpayer money to pay for their expenses for our own faulty logic of not allowing them work opportunity.

It is humane, it doesn’t drain American resources, and it satisfies the “I’ll do anything to come to the US”. Then focus on the “anything” part. Offer things like jobs they are qualified to take on right away, even serving army or navy or marine …. English immersion with Duolingo or language tools , etc
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:35 AM
 
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People who can work and contribute should be let in. People who will end up in subsidized housing should not. Those with criminal record should not. Pretty simple. Bonus points if you speak English. In any case, empires fail due to their own successes and getting decadant, lazy, and overprinting money, not because of immigrants, not really. It's a natural cycle as the successful forget about natural law and survival of the fittest and seek to have some unsustainable utopia where they think they can pay everyone to not work.
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:41 AM
 
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Perhaps it should be on an individual basis of merit.

What does this immigrant bring to the US?

Canada has more of an immigration system like this. Smart.
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