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but that is physically impossible.... the biggest releaser of CO2...our oceans,.. along with the permafrost/glaciers, and decaying plants/trees, which also cause methane
humans not producing co2, wont change the natural cycle of the climate, or the warming that happens in an interglacial period.
So, your argument is that human production of CO2 has no effect on global temperatures, so we can continue to spew as much CO2 as possible in a centuries long open ended experiment on the effects of doing so?
We are actually overdue for temperature drops, but the CO2 levels are preventing that. Now, that's not a horrible thing, since it's easier to adapt to higher temperatures than to living under 2 kilometers of ice, but there has to be a middle ground.
The above quote is the most important part of your post.
The climate does change regularly. But have you ever seen ANY proof that man's activities are causing it to change?
People have been wailing how awful and irresponsible Man is, to change the climate. The first Earth Day was in 1971, which is when the Big Crescendo started (if not earlier).
But in the fifty-plus years since then, many of the people who want us to pay huge bills and taxes to somehow slow the changes, or "change the climate back", have never come up with any proof that Man had anything to do with changing the climate in the first place. Or that he can "change it back".
All they seem to say is things like, "Man is producing carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide can cause sunlight to warm the atmosphere, therefore man is at fault for the changes we are seeing".
That's not much different from saying "Al Gore and Greta Thunberg produce a lot of carbon dioxide from their mouths when they lecture us endlessly on climate change, therefore Al Gore and Greta Thunberg are causing the climate to change in the first place". Never any consideration for how much CO2 would be needed to actually change anything, or whether increasing CO2 would cause millions more CO2-using plants to grow in jungles, wheat fields, etc., which in turn would cause those plants to use up CO2 faster and replace it with Oxygen, etc. .... or any other such natural phenomena that go on all the time, 24/7/365.
There is no proof that man's activities are changing the climate.
Before you can persuade me to start paying the immense taxes and bills you are requiring "to change the climate back", and/or get me to make major changes in my lifestyle, you're going to have to show me more than you have so far. All you've got so far is empty talk and hysteria, and that won't cut it.
It's actually more reasonable to say "Since you've had more than fifty years to produce this proof, and you have utterly failed to do so, it has become clear that there is no proof. And the most likely reason for this complete lack of proof, is because man's activities never had anything to do with changing the climate in the first place.
So, your argument is that human production of CO2 has no effect on global temperatures, so we can continue to spew as much CO2 as possible in a centuries long open ended experiment on the effects of doing so?
We are actually overdue for temperature drops, but the CO2 levels are preventing that. Now, that's not a horrible thing, since it's easier to adapt to higher temperatures than to living under 2 kilometers of ice, but there has to be a middle ground.
our effect is 2-3%... which is minimal
we are not overdue for the temp to drop.. the normal swing into a glacial period is not due for another 5000 to 20,000 years
we are NOT higher than other interglacial periods, in fact we are behind other interglacial periods because of the smog we have caused, which has prevented the true warming we are supposed to be in
cleaner air is one of the causes of warming
of the last 5 interglacial periods, the global average temp peaked at about 73-76'f... our current global average is 59/60'f
the SCIENTIFIC FACT is that in the 4 billion years of this planet there have been over two dozen glacial periods and interglacial periods and each has happened WITHOUT man...
SCIENTIFIC FACT shows the last glacial period ended about 18,000 years ago, and we have been warming since
SCIENTIFIC theory shows that we SLOWED the warming slightly due to all the smog in the air, and that cleaner skies ADD to the warming
You men that after 50+ years of never proving the constant wishful thinking of manmade climate change, somebody finally found a way to PROVE it???
Do tell!
sorry, in my speeding through typing, i was supposed to say theory, not fact (fixed it)
its not man-made climate change...its NATURAL climate cycle ...but the smog for the beginning of the industrial revolution did SLOW the warming slightly
They are basing their hysteria on the fact that having more CO2 in the atmosphere, causes higher temperatures for the amount of energy the sun puts into the air.
And they are completely ignoring that corollary fact that having more CO2 in the atmosphere, causes the atmosphere to reflect more radiant energy coming from the sun, back into outer space, and thus cooling the air.
Which effect do you think is more dominant? And why?
Not how it works. When sunlight reaches Earth, the surface absorbs some of the light’s energy and radiates it as infrared waves. CO2 blocks infrared waves from entering space warming the planet.
So, basically you’re saying that the two most impactful and important technologies responsible for modern civilization … energy and transportation, are the true problems contributing to climate change.
So, let’s just do away with modern civilization for most people, but let’s not worry about the private jets, since they are such a minuscule contributor? Right?
Hopeless ….. we are surrounded by minds so filled with nonsense, the prognosis for the future is hopeless.
The reality is, even the “greenhouse effect” itself is a faulty, unproven theory, yet most have accepted it as though it’s an established fact. But it’s not an established fact at all, but just another cockamamie story from the climate clown show.
The great irony of this is the fact that real greenhouses often inject CO2 into the greenhouse to facilitate greater plant health and growth. Hahahaha. You can’t make this stuff up.
So, here we are, a planet run by a small group of eugenicists, who think the infestation of useless eaters on the planet have grown too large, and 90% need to go bye bye. That in a nutshell is “Climate Change” and all of the BS stories associated with it.
Sadly, we do have way too many humans who are stupid enough to be cheerleaders for the program meant to eliminate them.
"So, here we are, a planet run by a small group of eugenicists, who think...."
Still waiting for algores prediction "Miami will be under water in 10 years" back in 2008!
Because of arctic melting the so-called climate-deniers have stopped saying that climate-change is not happening but are now saying that nothing can be done about it.
Well, industrialized release of carbon-dioxide can be 80% eliminated. For instance houses on lots can have ground-source heat-pumps. That's an existing technology.
But the immediate problem is going to be a shortage of food due to droughts. That statement is not a debate point but a growing realization of fundamentals. Neither political party is prepared for what we face, say, in the next five years
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"That statement is not a debate"
Got it, Only what YOU think is valid.
Me think you think way too HIGHLY of yourself!
"Well, industrialized release of carbon-dioxide can be 80% eliminated."
Let me ask you a question.
If places like China, Russia, Germany, and the U.K. don't do anything and only make it worse, what does what America does matter?
It's like you have 5 holes in your boat and you only plug 1. The boat will STILL SINK!
You don't want to face it, but we can't go on this way.
"You don't want to face it", right back at you!
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