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Old 09-06-2022, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Can someone point me to the thread about Colorado controlling smart thermostats? Apparently it's already a topic but I can't find it.
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Old 09-06-2022, 06:04 PM
 
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I came home at 7:30PM yesterday and found the oven clock needed adjustment. That meant the power went out at some point. I didn't know for how long. Californians pay some of the highest electric rates in the country. Where does all that money go?
Couple places:
1) they do have a generally higher COL and lots of litigation is a given.

2) Other states, they have to pay through the nose when they run short on electricity. This is not infrequent from 4-9PM.

3) Solar subsidies. They have to pay people full retail rates for excess solar which is often generated at times when they have no use for the extra power.

10 years ago, their rates were only about 20% higher than the national average. They're getting close to double that now.
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Old 09-06-2022, 06:57 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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BREAKING: Rolling blackouts have been ordered by California's grid operator until 8 p.m. Tuesday evening amid record-smashing demand during the state's heat wave.
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:25 PM
 
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Irony as the liberal idiots from California made fun of Texas during a never before seen event with northern plains temperatures. Meanwhile, California with yearly rolling blackouts during the summer all of a sudden can’t keep up with their virtue signaling?

Why are white liberals so stupid and evil?

There was so much gloating when the power went out in Texas. The viciousness of these people is astounding. Yet not a word (or just excuses) on the entirely predictable power issues every summer in California.
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:26 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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I'm not sure ordered is the right word here. Threatened, yes, but not confirmed to have been implemented on the PG&E site. Demand has dropped sharply since a very scary sounding warning was sent to all area phones a while ago.

It's a volatile minute-to-minute situation, but it appears they're still hoping to avoid a "go" for blackouts.
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:31 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I'm not sure ordered is the right word here. Threatened, yes, but not confirmed to have been implemented on the PG&E site. Demand has dropped sharply since a very scary sounding warning was sent to all area phones a while ago.

It's a volatile minute-to-minute situation, but it appears they're still hoping to avoid a "go" for blackouts.
an hour ago:

Rotating outages are currently underway in Alameda. If an additional hour of outages is ordered, it is likely that AMP will have to shut off both circuits on this map which includes a majority of Bay Farm Island. We appreciate your patience as we wait for further direction.
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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They came through it all pretty well, all things considered. Did a whole lot better than Texas a couple winters back.
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Old 09-06-2022, 09:27 PM
 
Location: USA
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They came through it all pretty well, all things considered. Did a whole lot better than Texas a couple winters back.
They're still doing and as we see now their electric vehicle wet dream has only made it worse!
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Old 09-06-2022, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
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Can we get a check in here from the posters that clowned on Texas when they had their deep freeze? No? All mum eh?

People in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones and California qualifies as a fragile piece of cheap glass.
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Old 09-06-2022, 09:51 PM
 
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They came through it all pretty well, all things considered. Did a whole lot better than Texas a couple winters back.
Sure, we learned a lesson given a 100+ year event. In the mean time, we've had a few "plz limit power usage" events in the summer that have lead to "0" brown/black outs despite significantly historical drought and heat.

If one wants to hang onto the events of that winter and continue to proffer those events as an indictment, then fine, it obviously was a problem. However, to compare it to the, now fairly routine, annual, power issues facing certain other states, it would seem extremely disingenuous to make a direct comparison.

We're fine, enjoy your current blackouts and what is inevitable as your politicians push increased electrical usage all the while ignoring infrastructure build outs to actually support those policies.

We Texans will figure out how to deal with the exceptions while you continue to kowtow to the norms.
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