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Old 09-11-2022, 09:46 AM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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The article in the original post is from last June, and this topic has been discussed multiple times, some even before last June.

Oregon promotes teacher program that seeks to undo 'racism in mathematics'
It is certainly important enough to continue discussing it, even if you've been aware of it since last June.

How can anyone claim that math is NOT objective (2+2=5 ? ) Do these nutjobs want their anesthesiologists to determine the correct dose of anesthesia based on "feelings" rather than actual, objective, mathematical calculations? How about automobile crash impact tests, weight bearing ability in construction, pressure and temperature limits in the equipment in chemical plants? Heck, what about the amount due when you check out at the grocery store? Should the people who design cash registers and UPC scanners just let the machines make up any grand total?

Who are these enemies of the US that want our once-great nation to completely and utterly FAIL??? Really? Who is behind this assault on our country?

 
Old 09-11-2022, 09:56 AM
 
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Deep state.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 10:00 AM
 
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The word "math" is racist too because it is spoken in the English language. England is a European white nation. Racist.

We should change the spelling of "math" to "maff". It's easier to pronounce for many people that struggle with the white racist European language that our slave owning founders FORCED us to all to learn and speak.

/s
 
Old 09-11-2022, 10:14 AM
 
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Math beyond arithmetic might be too abstract for many students. The obvious solution by students is to not worry about the underlying logic but just learn the technique. Of course the new-new math does just the opposite but then students often just memorize someone's supposed elegant logic just like they sometimes just memorize proofs.

Well, there are different methods of logic and then featuring someone's particular logic is not a good course offering.

Now, there are problems with other types of courses. For instance, analysis of literature could put the student up against a psychologist that insists that the student is not writing what they should be personally saying. Boom, it's just a dead-end.

The overall solution is to not require specific courses but only require a number of course credits. But then courses must be added to make course choices available. And vocational courses might need to be added.

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Back to math and it doesn't have to be a classical subject. For instance, eight-grade math is essentially one-equation-with-one-unknown. Then ninth-grade math could be two-equations-with-two-unknowns. Tenth-grade math is usually geometry and that's where a logic is traditionally required more so than a technique. Eleventh-grade math could be three-equations-with-three-unknowns and more which is matrix algebra. Twelfth-grade math could be trigonometry. An additional math course would be an introduction to calculus. Another available math course could simply be popular topics of the time.

Also programming courses could be available but programming goes far beyond the most often featured web-page programming.

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I like what you are saying in that teaching should begin with allowing the child to discover their gift, which makes it priceless in a positive sense.

If you keep adding unknown's to problems, you only end up at infinite unknown in the highest degree. A teacher teaches from the position of known, which provides destination.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 10:21 AM
 
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Educators around the US have come out to condemn the 'Dismantling Racism in Mathematics' program.
It centers around a workbook which asserts that asking students to find the correct answer for math problems is inherently harmful for minorities.
So far, the workbook is being used by school districts in Georgia, Ohio, California and Oregon.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ht-answer.html
Hey, math is hard, and minorities are oppressed. They should not have to work hard after all that oppression.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 10:21 AM
 
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Hey guys, let me let you in on a little secret.

The school districts that implement this are really just trying to provide some easy curriculum so that they can graduate more kids so they can say how they're doing a better job and get promotions, raises, less political pressure etc.

It's just lowering the bar with and using racism as a smokescreen.

P.S. Unless you had a serious learning disability if you grew up in my house you would be at the very minimum at grade level in math. Every single one of my parents kids and grandkids are in STEM fields and neither of them went to college. Don't give me this math books are racist garbage.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 10:30 AM
 
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Hey, math is hard, and minorities are oppressed. They should not have to work hard after all that oppression.
One inconvenient fact that the Woke Brigade hate to acknowledge is that minorities of Asian descent (many of them first generation Americans their parents came here with zero $ or belongings) have the best scores and have the highest income in America.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 10:34 AM
 
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One inconvenient fact that the Woke Brigade hate to acknowledge is that minorities of Asian descent (many of them first generation Americans their parents came here with zero $ or belongings) have the best scores and have the highest income in America.
Again, it's tutoring, which is facilitated by income, but not all Asian-Americans excel academically. My daughter's first roommate in college proved that unequivocally.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 10:36 AM
 
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Again, it's tutoring, which is facilitated by income, but not all Asian-Americans excel academically. My daughter's first roommate in college proved that unequivocally.
No but standardized test scores over the years have the same groups achieving.....

Asian-White-GAP-Hispanic-Black

We are lowering the bar to bring up Blacks and Hispanics. That is what this amounts to.

Are other countries doing this ? Nope. Will weakness in Math impact the US ? You betcha in this technology age.
 
Old 09-11-2022, 10:38 AM
 
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Again, it's tutoring, which is facilitated by income, but not all Asian-Americans excel academically. My daughter's first roommate in college proved that unequivocally.
Statistics and facts don't care about your anecdotes.
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