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Old 09-12-2022, 03:47 PM
 
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On Meet the Press, Vice President Kamala Harris denounced the conservatives on the Supreme Court as “activists” due to their decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. She objected that the decision ignored decades of precedent and “we are suffering as a nation because of it.”

https://jonathanturley.org/2022/09/1...supreme-court/

 
Old 09-12-2022, 03:53 PM
 
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On Meet the Press, Vice President Kamala Harris denounced the conservatives on the Supreme Court as “activists” due to their decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. She objected that the decision ignored decades of precedent and “we are suffering as a nation because of it.”
She has a point. The recent nominees said they would respect precedent -- then this. Conservatives love activist judges as long as those judges are conservative.
 
Old 09-12-2022, 03:57 PM
 
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She has a point. The recent nominees said they would respect precedent -- then this. Conservatives love activist judges as long as those judges are conservative.
And the liberals want to stack the court because decisions aren't going their way. So everybody's wrong. They system is broken because it's been politicized.
 
Old 09-12-2022, 03:59 PM
 
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She has a point.
No, she's an idiot.

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The recent nominees said they would respect precedent -- then this. Conservatives love activist judges as long as those judges are conservative.
Ruling based on precedent and the common understanding of our rights throughout our history is not activist -- it's just the opposite.

SCOTUS' latest rulings are just that: in line with the Constitution.

Real activist judges rule based on their own feelings and ideals at the time, without considering precedents. That's how Democrat-appointed judges rule. They are the real activists and Harris knows it.
 
Old 09-12-2022, 04:04 PM
 
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Ruling based on precedent and the common understanding of our rights throughout our history is not activist -- it's just the opposite.
That's not what the conservatives have been yapping.

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SCOTUS' latest rulings are just that: in line with the Constitution.
That statement is an opinion and depends on how familiar one is with Constitutional law, procedure and precedent.
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Real activist judges rule based on their own feelings and ideals at the time, without considering precedents. That's how Democrat-appointed judges rule. They are the real activists and Harris knows it.
Your partisanship makes you commit glaring errors.
 
Old 09-12-2022, 04:06 PM
 
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She has a point. The recent nominees said they would respect precedent -- then this. Conservatives love activist judges as long as those judges are conservative.
Respecting precedent doesn't mean following it blindly.

After all, if a precedent was the only factor. In 1896 the Supreme Court heard Plessy v. Ferguson which basically said "Separate but Equal" is Constitutional. It wasn't overturned until Brown v. The Board of Education in 1954.

Did precedent matter in that decision? If it was the only factor then you must figure the Supreme Court was wrong in 1954 and shouldn't have overturned 50 years of precedent that was set. Or does precedent only matter in "certain" cases?
 
Old 09-12-2022, 04:10 PM
 
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No, she's an idiot.


SCOTUS' latest rulings are just that: in line with the Constitution.
The only thing important.
 
Old 09-12-2022, 04:11 PM
 
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Did precedent matter in that decision?
Yes, it was rejected after the society had more experience with the factors of the decision. Thurgood and his crew (including Kenneth Clark) showed how separate, in fact, was never equal. How the conservatives howled!

Did anyone come up with statistics and argument for the recent abortion ruling or did they just call it wrong?
 
Old 09-12-2022, 04:15 PM
 
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All these people do is blame and accuse others when things don't go their way.

Activism is defined in this case as returning power to the states.
 
Old 09-12-2022, 04:19 PM
 
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That's funny coming from someone that got her political career started in the Bay Area, a breeding ground for crazy leftist activists. I thought activism was championed by these whack jobs? Now it's bad, Kamala?

She's probably the dumbest vp ever

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