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Old 09-17-2022, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Beautiful NNJ
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That clinic says they provide abortions on request up to 32 weeks. All of this is still true:


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No woman who doesn’t want a baby is gonna stay pregnant, intentionally not have an easy to get first trimester abortion. Intentionally skip a second trimester abortion which is more complicated and costly than one done earlier. Then opt to wait until she is close to delivery to abort, especially considering finding a doctor to do LTA is difficult as not many preform them. Jump through the hoops of having two doctors sign off. Which they wouldn’t do as the pregnancy is healthy. This fantasy woman would also have to explain to all who have watched her pregnancy develop to the point of birth why she aborted her baby so late. It just doesn’t happen.

 
Old 09-17-2022, 04:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Sanderling View Post
That clinic says they provide abortions on request up to 32 weeks. All of this is still true:
Posters have stated repeatedly that late term abortions of healthy babies are NOT happening.

You walking that back now that posters are showing that YES it HAPPENS?


WHY would abortion clinics offer them if no one is getting them? Seems a really stupid business model, no?
 
Old 09-17-2022, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Do you remember Kermit Gosnell?
He basically took the live babies and snipped the bottom of the brain stem to KILL them.
Yes, women came in at 8 and 9 months pregnant for ABORTIONS.
Again:
Pro abortioner posters are the most dishonest posters.
The believe what they want to believe. No more. No less.
So banning abortions would keep people like Kermit Gosnell from performing them? When I was a teen abortions were illegal but women still got them. Wealthy girls went to a legit doctor who performed the abortion and wrote down that it was a D&C, poor girls had their boy friends hit and kick them in the abdomen until they aborted, or they went to a lay person who claimed they knew how to do abortions, sometimes resulting in death, or such a bad case of septicemia that the girl would end up having a hysterectomy.

People who want an abortion will get one no matter what the law says. It's just that the poor will suffer the consequences and the wealthy will become magically unpregnant and carry on with their lives like nothing happened. By the way, read Lindsey's bill - all the states who completely ban abortions with no exceptions will not have to change a thing. This is just for those awful blue states who have enough faith in women and their physicians that they don't feel the need to control them.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 05:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Chuckity View Post
I seriously doubt many women wait and then abort that late into their pregnancy. Something drastic has happened that a woman would want to abort a healthy pregnancy that late. No one would put themselves thru that trauma and expense when they could abort cheaply in the first trimester.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 05:28 PM
 
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Do you remember Kermit Gosnell?

He basically took the live babies and snipped the bottom of the brain stem to KILL them.

Yes, women came in at 8 and 9 months pregnant for ABORTIONS.

Again:

Pro abortioner posters are the most dishonest posters.

The believe what they want to believe. No more. No less.
Gosnell was a criminal doing illegal abortions.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 05:28 PM
 
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So banning abortions would keep people like Kermit Gosnell from performing them? When I was a teen abortions were illegal but women still got them. Wealthy girls went to a legit doctor who performed the abortion and wrote down that it was a D&C, poor girls had their boy friends hit and kick them in the abdomen until they aborted, or they went to a lay person who claimed they knew how to do abortions, sometimes resulting in death, or such a bad case of septicemia that the girl would end up having a hysterectomy.

People who want an abortion will get one no matter what the law says. It's just that the poor will suffer the consequences and the wealthy will become magically unpregnant and carry on with their lives like nothing happened. By the way, read Lindsey's bill - all the states who completely ban abortions with no exceptions will not have to change a thing. This is just for those awful blue states who have enough faith in women and their physicians that they don't feel the need to control them.
Yes, husband's aunt had a "change of life" pregnancy and her doctor wrote that a pregnancy would endanger her life. Therapeutic abortion it was called then. Same doctor who delivered her two daughters, plus one worked for him as a nurse. "Connected"??? That will certainly horrify some people.

Also in Catholic HS there some girls who left school for a while for an "emergency". We all knew what that emergency was for. Parents who had $$$. Hush, hush.

You are correct. It will not stop. Where there is the will, there will always be a way.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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I seriously doubt many women wait and then abort that late into their pregnancy. Something drastic has happened that a woman would want to abort a healthy pregnancy that late. No one would put themselves thru that trauma and expense when they could abort cheaply in the first trimester.
I thought that:

1. They didn’t happen

And

2. No one did them.

 
Old 09-17-2022, 05:35 PM
 
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Gosnell was a criminal doing illegal abortions.
Yes. He was. And ... were there women requesting that he abort/kill their basically full-term babies before they were born?

Yes. There were. And they did. He killed their babies. Babies that were healthy.

Your continued statements that "no woman would ever do that" are WRONG. Dead wrong.

Be honest. For once. Seriously.

There are woman that want almost full term babies ABORTED. In spite of you stating over and over and over, that "no women would do that."
 
Old 09-17-2022, 05:37 PM
 
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I thought that:

1. They didn’t happen

And

2. No one did them.

LTA are mostly done in the 20th week. That isn’t 8.5 months along. How many are done that late on healthy babies? Anti choice love their grisly abortion fantasy of women by the thousands aborting at 8/9 months. It doesn’t happen. Women getting LTA are getting them at the twenty week mark for legitimate reasons. The medical reasons are not the public or the government’s business.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 05:43 PM
 
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Yes. He was. And ... were there women requesting that he abort/kill their basically full-term babies before they were born?

Yes. There were. And they did. He killed their babies. Babies that were healthy.

Your continued statements that "no woman would ever do that" are WRONG. Dead wrong.

Be honest. For once. Seriously.

There are woman that want almost full term babies ABORTED. In spite of you stating over and over and over, that "no women would do that."
I don’t deny what both gosnell and the pregnant women didn’t happen. Same for a woman late in her pregnancy that wants to abort way past reasonable time. That said, the majority of the 1 percent of LTA are done for legitimate reasons. The few women who don’t, in no way lessen the legitimate needs of the others. Again a woman’s pregnancy is her business not the public nor the government.
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