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Old 09-19-2022, 01:17 PM
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EVERYTHING I have read has said that these asylum seekers have lim ited access to funds and that mainly religious groups, families, communities and yes some cities provide them with stuff.

So find those groups and send them there.

Look Martha's Vineyard was a symbolic pick and we all know it -- trying to pretend it was a good solution to this problem is ridiculous.

It was political posturing....we all know it.

Will it sway independent voters -- hahahah -- no.
Total BS. They are enrolled and have access to more resources than a native born US citizen.
Try not to choke on the Koolaid.

 
Old 09-19-2022, 01:19 PM
 
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They didn't dump them in the middle of the night.

It was a logistics traveling issue. There were always notified, with groups ready to help.

If Biden wanted to isn't the issue.

If DeSantis, Abbott, etc....united and said we need to have a meeting on this NOW...it's in his court to show up and prove his willingness to work with everyone.

The energy it takes for these guys to set up their game playing could be used to show their sincere interest in resolving this problem in the long term.

This is game playing.

It was costing us thousands and thousands with previous administrations. It is getting worse every year. It needs to be resolved for sure.

So come up with a plan. Flying 50 people on a charter to Martha's Vineyard has to be the most ineffective, simplistic, childish plan ever.

It's campaigning for the fan base, but it does nothing for the state.
For 2 years, Joe's solution was to pretend there was no problem... now, thanks to Desantis (and Abbott), EVERYBODY knows the problem exists.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 01:20 PM
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It's not sticking up for 'those' people. It's talking about how the political stunt was a stunt.

We need REAL LONG TERM solutions to these problems.

This was a political stunt for simple minded voters.
REAL LONG TERM solutions are so simple it would make your head roll off.
JUST ENFORCE THE EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS AND SECURE THE BORDER.
It’s beyond simple.

And a biblical level political stunt it was.
Goddam kudos galore for Ron having the brass pair of balls to do it.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Originally Posted by moneill View Post
They didn't dump them in the middle of the night.

It was a logistics traveling issue. There were always notified, with groups ready to help.

If Biden wanted to isn't the issue.

If DeSantis, Abbott, etc....united and said we need to have a meeting on this NOW...it's in his court to show up and prove his willingness to work with everyone.

The energy it takes for these guys to set up their game playing could be used to show their sincere interest in resolving this problem in the long term.

This is game playing.

It was costing us thousands and thousands with previous administrations. It is getting worse every year. It needs to be resolved for sure.

So come up with a plan. Flying 50 people on a charter to Martha's Vineyard has to be the most ineffective, simplistic, childish plan ever.

It's campaigning for the fan base, but it does nothing for the state.
So many excuses to try to defend Dems and Sleepy Joe. They’ve been clamoring for 2 years about open borders. Proof to DeSantis and Abbott not asking to meet?

They are resolving the problem long term. They’re spreading the wealth because their states have taken the brunt of these folks.

Except we’re not talking about previous administrations, we’re talking about this one, hence your attempt at deflection holds no water. You just don’t want to answer the question.

It’s hilarious how you tell folks what to do, in this case make a plan. If Dems were going to keep the border open and let millions of them in, why didn’t Sleepy Joe come up with a plan to begin with versus dumping them in the middle of the night and letting Texas and Florida handle the problem?

It does great things for the state. Less of a burden on a state that’s been dealing with it all along.

What are you doing to help these folks since you’re defending them, think the border should stay open, and that they should be allowed to continue coming in?
 
Old 09-19-2022, 01:24 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Yes, There’s a Crisis on the Border. And It’s Trump’s Fault.
Instead of wasting his time on a wall, the president should fix the asylum system.
April 05, 2019

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-trump-226573/
lol. you leftists have absolutely no shame, do ya?

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So many excuses to try to defend Dems and Sleepy Joe. They’ve been clamoring for 2 years about open borders. Proof to DeSantis and Abbott not asking to meet?

They are resolving the problem long term. They’re spreading the wealth because their states have taken the brunt of these folks.

Except we’re not talking about previous administrations, we’re talking about this one, hence your attempt at deflection holds no water. You just don’t want to answer the question.

It’s hilarious how you tell folks what to do, in this case make a plan. If Dems were going to keep the border open and let millions of them in, why didn’t Sleepy Joe come up with a plan to begin with versus dumping them in the middle of the night and letting Texas and Florida handle the problem?

It does great things for the state. Less of a burden on a state that’s been dealing with it all along.

What are you doing to help these folks since you’re defending them, think the border should stay open, and that they should be allowed to continue coming in?
one thing monie will never, ever do, is criticize xoe for begging the third world to surge the border and eliminating everything trump had put in place to try to keep the hordes out.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwLYMPLYbo

biden calls on illegal immigrants to surge the border
 
Old 09-19-2022, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Originally Posted by Griderrr1953 View Post
Yes, There’s a Crisis on the Border. And It’s Trump’s Fault.
Instead of wasting his time on a wall, the president should fix the asylum system.
April 05, 2019

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-trump-226573/
I am sure “but but but Trump orange man bad” would be a viable campaign tactic in 2020.

But it’s 2022 now and the democrats are in charge of 2 branches of government.

Democrat voters “how do you plan to fix this border crisis? You have been in charge for 2 years now”

Democrat politician “but but but Trump”

Dem voters “so why would we vote for you if you can’t fix anything?”
 
Old 09-19-2022, 01:28 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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lol. you leftists have absolutely no shame, do ya?
The leftist media has absolutely no shame, I've been just gobsmacked at the coverage of this. These people are absolutely shameless bold-faced liars.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 01:29 PM
 
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There's a crisis on the border and it isn't because of the USA.

It's because of the chaos in many countries around the world.

And yes the USA has to do something.

A simple wall will do nothing to curb the crush of folks asking for refugee/assylum status.

It just won't.

There has to be better, more comprehensive plan in place and yes Republicans/Democrats/States/Feds have to come together and hash it out.

But we've created a political environment so combative we can't resolve anything.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 01:32 PM
 
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So thankfully these migrants are now being looked after.

Unfortunately their immigration hearings are thousands of miles away and are TODAY. Luckily folks will help them to make it to their hearings.

So there are huge efforts to help them to get to those hearings so they can do what they are suppose to do. That's what we want right.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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It's not sticking up for 'those' people. It's talking about how the political stunt was a stunt.

We need REAL LONG TERM solutions to these problems.

This was a political stunt for simple minded voters.
Man of the mansions at Martha's Vineyard are VACANT most of the year. Why not send illegals there for housing??? It is a lie when they say "there's no place for them here". The population is 17K during the offseason and swells to over 200K in season. They can surely handle 50 people.
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