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He’s not a fan of the new booster and does not believe there is evdience to support it being rolled out.
Yeah, omicron. /shrug He's old and didn't die or get hospitalized. I'm fully vaxed and boosted, and I'll wait and see how the new booster works, but I'm not due for a booster for a few months.
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Yeah, omicron. /shrug He's old and didn't die or get hospitalized. I'm fully vaxed and boosted, and I'll wait and see how the new booster works, but I'm not due for a booster for a few months.
Omicron's IFR is < than Influenza. Do you think his 3 vaccines of the ancestral virus had anything to do with him not being hospitalized/dying from Omicron?
Omicron's IFR is < than Influenza. Do you think his 3 vaccines of the ancestral virus had anything to do with him not being hospitalized/dying from Omicron?
I think it depends on the person. Also, we still have 450 people dying a day, every day, for months (actually was higher), I think that is showing the IFR is higher than the flu. We are predominantly omicron during that time period.
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I think it depends on the person. Also, we still have 450 people dying a day, every day, for months (actually was higher), I think that is showing the IFR is higher than the flu. We are predominantly omicron during that time period.
No, it doesn't show that at all. IFR = infection fatality ratio . A ratio indicates you have a numerator (deaths from COVID*) vs denominator (infections from COVID). For example, Ebola has a higher IFR than either SARS-CoV-2 or Influenza but on average, only a handful people die worldwide every year because infections are low.
* Most of those 400 COVID deaths are "with" not "from". But that's unrelated to your point.
if you dont take the vaccination, it just hurt themselve. its not like hurting those that have taken it. I dont see why people are getting fire for not taken it, its no harm to other just themselves. they say 70% have gotta sick. I know of two in two years.
This whole thing has made me completely distrust the medical community and the drug companies. My kids are adults now but if I had to do it all over again, I would forego vaccinating them. I simply now believe that the risks outweighs the benefits.
So you wouldn't give your newborn their MMR shot and risk them getting these diseases again? We've wiped out a lot of viruses that used to cripple people, and they would make a comeback if everyone decided to go anti-vax, but hey, that's natural selection for you. Let people make these decisions and deal with the consequences.
I don't think it's unnecessary for government to try to hold everyone's hand cradle to grave. If they don't want to vaccinate their kids, so be it. I'm all for a society of maximum freedom with maximum accountability, the problem is the government will never do that. They always want to hand hold and protect everyone from everything, plus the need to control people at a more basic level, to let them know who's in charge so they are obedient towards authority.
I think it's unnecessary for government to try to hold everyone's hand cradle to grave. If they don't want to vaccinate their kids, so be it. Make them sign a waiver they are responsible for all medical costs if their kid gets the virus in question and be done with it.
Uhm, unless you're on medicaid, you're responsible anyways. Be your kid vaccinated or not, you (your insurance) has to pay.
PS Measles,Mumps, Rubella (MMR) are mild diseases.
No, it doesn't show that at all. IFR = infection fatality ratio . A ratio indicates you have a numerator (deaths from COVID*) vs denominator (infections from COVID). For example, Ebola has a higher IFR than either SARS-CoV-2 or Influenza but on average, only a handful people die worldwide every year because infections are low.
* Most of those 400 COVID deaths are "with" not "from". But that's unrelated to your point.
Just a quick glance at excess death rates in the US in 2022, indicates different.
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The excess deaths are far higher than the reported deaths [from] COVID, are all over the western world. And cannot be explained by COVID.
I use the UK as a source here since they have far better data than we do, or their data for 2022 is more timely.
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Taking this approach, the Continuous Mortality Investigation report 8,200 excess deaths in the last eight weeks.
There have been around 4,500 deaths with COVID-19 mentioned on the death certificate in the last eight weeks. COVID was the underlying cause for 2,800 of these and may also have contributed to others.
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Cardiovascular causes show significant excess mortality. For example, heart disease, heart failure and circulatory diseases. Deaths from diabetes, the urinary system, and respiratory infections are also elevated, though for the latter most of the excess is from COVID.
In reality, seems people have become somewhat less healthy during the pandemic and deaths from cardiovascular related issues have surged.
While the elephant in the room is vaccines, which aggravate or cause CVD (myocarditis being the tip of the iceberg), also stress, lack of exercise (during pandemic) may also be to blame.
With every generation, more and more people under 50 are likely to be diagnosed with cancer. Pretty remarkable since with the campaign against tobacco smoking, you'd expect to see the reverse.
Bottom line, we do have excess deaths but only a % are from COVID.
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