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We've outgrown mfg. We're in the technology age only our population isn't skilled enough so we're left with the service industry.
Service industry is any job that's not manufacturing or farming/agriculture/fishing.
Service industry has tons of high paying jobs. The following are service industry jobs: Software and tech work, financial, telecom, utilities, insurance, railroad, real estate, transportation, sales, marketing, medical, teacher, entertainment, media, sports, politics, non-profit, skilled trades, electrician,plumber, fire/police, road & bridge
We've outgrown mfg. We're in the technology age only our population isn't skilled enough so we're left with the service industry.
Did we also outgrow farming? No, we didn't. We still like to eat. We just produce far, far more with far less. Manufacturing has gone that way too. Now you have 1 worker watching over multiple machines doing complex operations that used to have to be done one at a time by a whole factory full of skilled and semi skilled workers. And it was like pulling teeth back in the "good ol days". Imagine if we tried to do it that way today... We didn't outgrow it, we evolved and became more efficient at it.
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Originally Posted by Corrie22
...and China is powering every bit of it with coal
The UN declared them all "developing".....global warming be damned
"South Africa's Limpopo province gave environmental authorization to a China-backed proposal to spend more than $10 billion building a 4,600 megawatt coal-fired power plant, a coking facility and ferroalloy and steel plants."
"According to a September report by the Global Energy Monitor based on its Global Coal Public Finance Tracker, China's announcement will affect 44 coal plants under consideration for public financing from state-owned Chinese institutions in 20 countries, eight of which are in sub-Saharan Africa"
Coal is one of the cheapest forms of energy, and consumers gravitate towards the cheapest products, so it's a no brainer. The USA shouldn't force itself to race to the bottom though. That's stupid. It should protect and defend itself when and where it is necessary. We will always require some form of a manufacturing sector, and it should be considered an extension of our nation's infrastructure.
Service industry is any job that's not manufacturing or farming/agriculture/fishing.
Service industry has tons of high paying jobs. The following are service industry jobs: Software and tech work, financial, telecom, utilities, insurance, railroad, real estate, transportation, sales, marketing, medical, teacher, entertainment, media, sports, politics, non-profit, skilled trades, electrician,plumber, fire/police, road & bridge
But the high paying ones require some skill (college) and/or certification.
I would disagree that all the ones you listed are "service". I consider teaching a professional job since you need a 4 year degree..others as well.
I would not lump a college degreed teacher with a burger flipper as being in the same industry..service.
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I would disagree that all the ones you listed are "service". I consider teaching a professional job since you need a 4 year degree..others as well.
I would not lump a college degreed teacher with a burger flipper as being in the same industry..service.
Teacher is in the service industry. Attorney is in the service industry. Doctor is in the service industry. Stock broker is in the service industry. Airline pilot is in the service industry. Professional jobs are in the service industry.
There are 3 industries(sectors):
Manufacturing
Agriculture/Mining
Service
Define "we". Near as I know most of us do want to see things made in America but the people with the money to finance it feel otherwise.
No, that's not true, although the people who own the manufacturing plants moved their stuff to foreign countries to get it made cheaper for higher profits, and there was nothing to stop them from doing so.
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Originally Posted by Roboteer
Since everything is made in China why don’t we want to have the power of making stuff anymore?
Buying from China was cheaper.
If we bought from USA, we'd have to raise our prices and nobody would buy our stuff. Didn't have much choice. Or did you have a suggestion?
This is exactly it. Some of us are old enough to remember when we had well-made stuff in the USA, but the PEOPLE wanted to have more stuff that was cheap instead of less stuff that was of better quality and cost more.
It boggles my mind that all these same people who for forty years have been stuffing their houses and garages with more and more and more stuff made in China are suddenly scratching their heads and wondering why China has all the money and is gaining in power. YOU GAVE IT TO THEM. WILLINGLY!
Companies can’t afford that, consumers can’t pay for it, so now everything gets made in China.
There is more to it than that. Overbearing environmental regulations are to blame in both manufacturing and residential development(more homes). Add in the fact that despite record trade imbalance with China, tariffs remain horribly lopsided. So the worker is squeezed from both sides with less opportunity, unaffordable housing, and the company that wants to make a "made in USA" widget has zero chance of being competitive with Chinese goods. At least where I live, housing has become so bad we have plenty of jobs up to and over $100K/year that go begging, never mind the $25/hr-you'll need TWO of those jobs here.
Prime example of the environmental over-reach, a neighboring business in industrial zoning had a few injection molding machines making cell phone cases(i.e. the plastic halves of the phone itself). Good paying jobs for the techs running the machines and changing out molds, and the local machine shops modifying or making new molds every time a new phone came out. Obviously the market is huge, they wanted to expand and bring in a bunch more molding machines and workers. Environmental regulations were going to require the building to have a scrubber installed just for the smell of that hot plastic from the molding process. On the other side, workers were getting hard to retain due to the area's high cost of housing. Guess where it all went? Now instead of being made from mainly hydroelectric power, they are made in China with coal power and then shipped around the world in a an oil burning container ship. And that building now sits empty.
No, that's not true, although the people who own the manufacturing plants moved their stuff to foreign countries to get it made cheaper for higher profits, and there was nothing to stop them from doing so.
This is exactly it. Some of us are old enough to remember when we had well-made stuff in the USA, but the PEOPLE wanted to have more stuff that was cheap instead of less stuff that was of better quality and cost more.
It boggles my mind that all these same people who for forty years have been stuffing their houses and garages with more and more and more stuff made in China are suddenly scratching their heads and wondering why China has all the money and is gaining in power. YOU GAVE IT TO THEM. WILLINGLY!
I remember when "Made in Japan" was the big issue
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