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I agree that there is and always has been some election fraud. It would be foolish to think that with some 150 million votes being cast in 2020 that there was zero fraud. The reality is however that instances of fraud is small compared to the total vote. It is not a widespread problem. No rational person would think that an election won by over 7 million votes was somehow fraudulently won. If such a thing were to ever happen, there would loads of evidence everywhere. As exhibited by Trump's own lawyers, they could not find real credible evidence of such widespread fraud. If they could have, they would presented it to the courts.
Dead people vote, collect social security and disability for years. I doubt that the people in charge of the polls are all completely honest and with the hate and lack of accountability today, voting is no doubt fraudulent.
I agree that there is and always has been some election fraud. It would be foolish to think that with some 150 million votes being cast in 2020 that there was zero fraud. The reality is however that instances of fraud is small compared to the total vote. It is not a widespread problem. No rational person would think that an election won by over 7 million votes was somehow fraudulently won. If such a thing were to ever happen, there would loads of evidence everywhere. As exhibited by Trump's own lawyers, they could not find real credible evidence of such widespread fraud. If they could have, they would presented it to the courts.
Fraud is not the right word. Harvesting is the right word. Early voting, ballot boxes, allowed democrat operatives to go door to door with ballots, increasing turnout. Turnout is everything. This wouldn't be a problem if you could get 100% of the population to get off their ass and go to the voting booth, but when democrat turnout is 67% because of harvesting when it otherwise might have been 54%, meanwhile conservative turnout is 56%, you have a problem. This tips elections.
Republicans need to get off their ass and vote. If they don't, they only have themselves to blame when democrats gain more and more power, because going door to door to gather votes, and stuff them into drop boxes, is a powerful political tool. If you don't vote, and you have strong political beliefs, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM... and chances are that's not many people who frequent this forum.
"Vote fraud" would not be a large concern if everyone voted. You still might have ballot counters trying to scan ballots multiple times though. I wouldn't put it at all past a democrat to do that in 2022. People have no ethics these days. They play the game to win. This is why I talk about checks and balances to keep human nature in check. They could easily prevent election fraud if they wanted. Unique IDs for each ballot, electronic voting, third party verification of all voting procedures, etc. Each side genuinely thinks the other side cheats... so let's do something about it.
Dead people vote, collect social security and disability for years. I doubt that the people in charge of the polls are all completely honest and with the hate and lack of accountability today, voting is no doubt fraudulent.
How many dead people are collecting SS for years. The people who take the body for burial or cremation notify SS. SS gets on it before the body is cold. They must notify the credit reporting agencies, too.
We have just been through that. A friend couldn't write a check although her name was on the account until she presented a death certificate.
Some have been arrested for voting in their dead relatives name. The timing was pretty close. The person had not been dead for years. And that's up to the Secretary of State to remove the dead from the rolls. They can do it, too. But some must be lazy.
I believe that localized voter fraud exists. Mathematically, I'm skeptical that it could exist on a sufficient scale to influence a national election. It would be just too difficult to pull off in complete secrecy, unless the government controlled all the media sources. What is much easier to pull off is a deception to fool people into believing fraud exists. The latter requires a much simpler level of fraud; just a few image alterations and deceptive interpretation.
I believe that localized voter fraud exists. Mathematically, I'm skeptical that it could exist on a sufficient scale to influence a national election. It would be just too difficult to pull off in complete secrecy, unless the government controlled all the media sources. What is much easier to pull off is a deception to fool people into believing fraud exists. The latter requires a much simpler level of fraud; just a few image alterations and deceptive interpretation.
One might assume so but;
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“.. thousands of completely undeliverable vote-by-mail ballots that were later turned in to election officials as legitimately cast vote-by-mail ballots, ...”
It seems that voting fraud was more widespread than what we might suspect. Nobody is blaming one party or the other here.
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“The whole game is to generate undeliverable ballots—a portion of which are somehow being obtained and voted by somebody else.”
"Error in census counting gives Democrats major edge in elections" It wasn’t an error…it was early cheating by the Democrats.
“If a politician from Florida decides to run for president in 2024, his (or her) home state will be short two votes in the Electoral College,” Hans von Spakovsky of the Heritage Foundation and the American Constitutional Rights Union said, “and when the new session of the U.S. House of Representatives convenes in January 2023, Florida will be missing two congressional seats to which it is entitled.”
You are willfully ignorant if you think the number is that small.
There are 20 million illegals in the country right now.
2000 illegal votes? That's laughable.
There is no doubt that fraud played a part in 2020, the only question is did the fraud make a meaningful difference? I think that it’s pretty safe to say that it did as a guy that needs a name tag to remember who he is supposedly got 80M votes. I think it’s also safe to say that most American voters would not let Joe Biden park their cars. Biden has never accomplished a darn thing is his life, sadly his streak continues.
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