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Old 09-17-2022, 03:04 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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How should the Nov. 2022 mid-term elections be run?


No mail-in voting except Absentee voting, where the voter has to request a ballot and specify the address they should send it to, a serial number on the absentee ballot that matches the one on the envelope.

No computerized ballots. Electromechanical counting is OK for speed, but the vote is not certified until every paper ballot is visually counted. Yes, get ready to hire a BUNCH of vote-counters, and supervisors. Secure elections done right, ain't cheap.

If a person can't get to the polls on election day, he can give his ballot to a trusted person (spouse, sibling, of-age descendent, whoever he wants. He must fill out a form listing his name, address, and who he wants to bring in his ballot; and he and the trusted person must both sign it. (California does this already.) It's up to each voter to be responsible enough to get their ballot to the polls on Election Day. All ballots must be in the polling place or Registrar's office by midnight on Election Day. Any ballot arriving after that time will be discarded.

Military, diplomatic etc. personnel stationed overseas on duty, must hand their ballot to a govt official (superior officer, embassy office etc.) in time for it to arrive at their home state's registrar by Election Day. These are the ONLY ballots permitted to arrive before Election Day. Designated officers must get such ballots to their destination as quickly as possible, in time for the election.

When you go to the polls to vote, you must show govt-issued photo ID. States or Feds must issue a suitable Photo ID (Driver's license or standard state ID or passport etc.) to any eligible person for free.

If your ballot is damaged, or you accidentally marked the wrong box or whatever, poll workers will have blank "provisional ballots" available. At the polling place, you give your damaged ballot to the poll worker and tell him what happened, and he will tear it up in front of your eyes, and give you the blank provisional ballot. You must mark the ballot and get it in to a polling place by midnight on Election Day.

Yes, I know, this won't be as easy and freewheeling as the vote-anytime-anywhere-get-it-in-by-any-uncontrolled-and-unsupervised-method-you-like deal we have today. This is not the first time we had such loose, uncontrolled handling of ballots - but the previous time (Nov. 2020) was a disaster for people who wanted to trust that all the eligible people could vote and all the ineligible people couldn't. Strictly controlling it as described above, used to be the norm. It's still not foolproof, or Democrat-proof, but it's much harder to cheat, than today's grotesquely uncontrolled version.

The idea is, the ballot is NEVER out of your control, from the time the poll worker hands it to you, until the time you mark it and hand it back. And he then puts it in the ballot box before your eyes.

Ballot boxes are strictly controlled, too. Every time a ballot box changes hands, paperwork goes with it, with the giver and the receiver each signing the custody form. They weigh the box, note any possible damage to the box, record it, and pass it on. This is a standard way to handle classified documents in the military (and I would guess in diplomatic circles), and should be adhered to.

Sure, it's a hassle. If you don't like it, go work for the Post Office or UPS or your local Boy Scout troop instead. The goal (as it has been for centuries, until just recently when Democrats had major reasons for wanting to cheat) is to keep ballots secure, and make sure that what each citizen put on his ballot, is what winds up getting counted for him.

That's what the next major election (Nov. 2022) should be like.

Count on the Democrats screaming bloody murder over that idea, of course. They'll swear up and down there's not enough time to prepare, not enough time to print and distribute ballots, too difficult for states to change from whatever method they've used in the past (Often Dominion voting machines), not enough time to train people to help voters with voting, you name it. Most of which is laughable false, and all of which CAN be done in the next few months.

But they will come up with every excuse in the book, except the real reason they don't want to do the Nov. 2022 election that way: It's WAY too hard to cheat in the volumes they need to win.

Which is exactly why the elections SHOULD be held that way.

What would you like to see the next major election do? Reasons for, reasons against?[/quote]
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I like your ideas OP. I like any ideas that prevent Fraud. I don't know what it is with the Democrats that flip out whenever there is mention of having to show a ID when you go to vote. If you do not have an ID I'm sure a special one could be made up for you. We need an ID to buy cough syrup at Walmart so why not for Voting?



Recently the Democrats that run my state, MASS. put forth a Bill to hand Illegal Aliens a Drivers License. Our departing Governor Vetoed the Bill because the Dems flat out refused to put any indication on the Illegal Alien drivers license to designate that they are Illegal. His fear was that they would be able to use the License to vote. The Democrats had the numbers to over rule his Veto and luckily enough of us were able to sign a petition to get the question on the November ballot.



Voting is a Right granted to Citizens in good standing with Society. The Vote is not something that should be given away to people that have no business having it BUT that seems to be what the Democrats want because they know that chances are with the way they rule the news and Social Media that those votes are coming their way.



It would be really funny if it was shown that the MILLIONS of Illegal Aliens that Biden has opened the door to since he has taken over will actually and eventually vote as a block for the Republicans. That would be awesome. How fast would the Dems be able to Build a Wall ?



We have to protect the Sanctity of the Ballot.
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:21 PM
 
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So in my state, Utah, they would have to do a WHOLE lot of reorganizing and put new systems into place in a relatively short time to get it to be like you wish would happen by the 2022 election since we do it almost all by mail. It works just fine as it is.

It's too late for 2022, but I think states should just work towards implementing systems like ours instead of all of these regressive ideas. If you don't trust what Blue States do, there's a Red State's system you can copy.

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Old 09-17-2022, 03:24 PM
 
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I always thought mail-in voting was absentee voting.
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:26 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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It doesn't matter. The Dems will win.
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:28 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I always thought mail-in voting was absentee voting.
It used to be and only allowed under certain circumstances.

But a few states have mail in so anyone can do it.

Didn't you get that in 2020/2021 from your state because of the pandemic ?
We did in SC and I just filled it in and dropped it in the mailbox..there was a "covid" checkbox.
But we're back to the old rules now.
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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It doesn't matter. The Dems will win.
You mean "cheat"
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:54 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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You mean "cheat"
We're in Bizarro World now...make believe they "won"

Why do you think our schools are producing idiots ?

Once the boomers and Gen X are gone you will have a full nation of idiots and they will do whatever they want.
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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All the laws put in because of covid that made it so easy for Democrats to cheat are still there. There will be no red wave.
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Old 09-17-2022, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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How should the Nov. 2022 mid-term elections be run?


No mail-in voting except Absentee voting, where the voter has to request a ballot and specify the address they should send it to, a serial number on the absentee ballot that matches the one on the envelope.

No computerized ballots. Electromechanical counting is OK for speed, but the vote is not certified until every paper ballot is visually counted. Yes, get ready to hire a BUNCH of vote-counters, and supervisors. Secure elections done right, ain't cheap.

If a person can't get to the polls on election day, he can give his ballot to a trusted person (spouse, sibling, of-age descendent, whoever he wants. He must fill out a form listing his name, address, and who he wants to bring in his ballot; and he and the trusted person must both sign it. (California does this already.) It's up to each voter to be responsible enough to get their ballot to the polls on Election Day. All ballots must be in the polling place or Registrar's office by midnight on Election Day. Any ballot arriving after that time will be discarded.

Military, diplomatic etc. personnel stationed overseas on duty, must hand their ballot to a govt official (superior officer, embassy office etc.) in time for it to arrive at their home state's registrar by Election Day. These are the ONLY ballots permitted to arrive before Election Day. Designated officers must get such ballots to their destination as quickly as possible, in time for the election.

When you go to the polls to vote, you must show govt-issued photo ID. States or Feds must issue a suitable Photo ID (Driver's license or standard state ID or passport etc.) to any eligible person for free.

If your ballot is damaged, or you accidentally marked the wrong box or whatever, poll workers will have blank "provisional ballots" available. At the polling place, you give your damaged ballot to the poll worker and tell him what happened, and he will tear it up in front of your eyes, and give you the blank provisional ballot. You must mark the ballot and get it in to a polling place by midnight on Election Day.

Yes, I know, this won't be as easy and freewheeling as the vote-anytime-anywhere-get-it-in-by-any-uncontrolled-and-unsupervised-method-you-like deal we have today. This is not the first time we had such loose, uncontrolled handling of ballots - but the previous time (Nov. 2020) was a disaster for people who wanted to trust that all the eligible people could vote and all the ineligible people couldn't. Strictly controlling it as described above, used to be the norm. It's still not foolproof, or Democrat-proof, but it's much harder to cheat, than today's grotesquely uncontrolled version.

The idea is, the ballot is NEVER out of your control, from the time the poll worker hands it to you, until the time you mark it and hand it back. And he then puts it in the ballot box before your eyes.

Ballot boxes are strictly controlled, too. Every time a ballot box changes hands, paperwork goes with it, with the giver and the receiver each signing the custody form. They weigh the box, note any possible damage to the box, record it, and pass it on. This is a standard way to handle classified documents in the military (and I would guess in diplomatic circles), and should be adhered to.

Sure, it's a hassle. If you don't like it, go work for the Post Office or UPS or your local Boy Scout troop instead. The goal (as it has been for centuries, until just recently when Democrats had major reasons for wanting to cheat) is to keep ballots secure, and make sure that what each citizen put on his ballot, is what winds up getting counted for him.

That's what the next major election (Nov. 2022) should be like.

Count on the Democrats screaming bloody murder over that idea, of course. They'll swear up and down there's not enough time to prepare, not enough time to print and distribute ballots, too difficult for states to change from whatever method they've used in the past (Often Dominion voting machines), not enough time to train people to help voters with voting, you name it. Most of which is laughable false, and all of which CAN be done in the next few months.

But they will come up with every excuse in the book, except the real reason they don't want to do the Nov. 2022 election that way: It's WAY too hard to cheat in the volumes they need to win.

Which is exactly why the elections SHOULD be held that way.

What would you like to see the next major election do? Reasons for, reasons against?
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Each state is responsible for it's own elections and they are controlled by the states, not the Federal Government....so your list is basically impossible, unless they just all wanted to adopt your rules.
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