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Old 09-19-2022, 09:00 AM
 
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None of those continued to question the election a year and a half after their opponent was sworn into office, nor did they call up their supporters to stage a violent and bloody insurrection in a coup attempt.

Apples and oranges.
Wrong again, by calling the election stolen and President Trump illegitimate years after the election that is questioning and accusing the President of a crime. The list is long because it went on for years after the election.


9/26/2019: Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...40f_story.html

Hypocrisy is not a virtue.




Trump never call people to stage a "violent insurrection in coup attempt". It was a riot with no guns that lasted 4 hours that the only person that died was an unarmed woman by the police. If that's a bloody coup what is the BLM and LA riots? The French Revolution II. Thanks for the laugh.
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:09 AM
 
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Mysteriously, they hold to this view despite the fact that there were downballot Republicans who won *their* elections. But they can't accept that maybe Trump was either that despised/or that exhausting, that folk either voted for somebody else, or left their POTUS selection blank.
Oh, this is not mysterious at all. You see, whenever a Republican wins, it's legit. Whenever a Democrat wins, it's not. So obviously all of the votes on that ballot that went to a Republican were real votes, and all the votes that went to a Democrat--on that same ballot--were fake.

See how easy that was?
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Will the NYT call out the Democrats for questioning the elections when they lose? I think not.
When did the NYT called out Hillary, Abrams and many Democrats for questioning the elections when they lost? Hypocrisy is not a virtue.

If you remember. Hillary and Obama both quietly stepped aside when they lost. It was Trump when he won against Hillary that questioned the 3 million more popular votes she got over him, he couldnt stand that, it infuriated him. Biden got about 8 million more popular votes than Trump. Its the radical right that want a civil war because they cant get what they want.
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:12 AM
 
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What about talk of impeaching someone before they even take office? How does that sit with you?

Anyone is free to say what they want when they want. But instead of just repeating the same thing do you have link that proves democrat leadership called from Trump's impeachment before he took office?
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:13 AM
 
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The fact remains that Clinton conceded the election and there was a peaceful transfer of power, Trump didn't even allow the transition team access.
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How do you concede an election when for years after the election she publicly accused Trump of stealing the election and calling him an illegitimate President?

Please explain that huge discrepancy in your posts that you keep repeating over and over.

She is saying Trump "won" the election but he stole it by cheating and is illegitimate?

Definition of the word: allowed or admitted as true, proper, just, etc.:

Calling it stolen and calling the winner illegitimate for years after the election that kills your posts. Is she and many Democrats election "deniers"???????? or hypocrisy is a virtue now?
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:17 AM
 
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If you remember. Hillary and Obama both quietly stepped aside when they lost. It was Trump when he won against Hillary that questioned the 3 million more popular votes she got over him, he couldnt stand that, it infuriated him. Biden got about 8 million more popular votes than Trump. Its the radical right that want a civil war because they cant get what they want.
Why do you ignore the facts from 2016 to 2020? where you out of the country or coma? I just put link after link and you can also GOOGLE it that Hillary called the election stolen and accused President Trump of being an illegitimate President with many other Democrats for years after the election.

What Civil war? how many people in the left were killed by the right in the last 6 years? your posts are cracking.
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:45 AM
 
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Why do you ignore the facts from 2016 to 2020? where you out of the country or coma? I just put link after link and you can also GOOGLE it that Hillary called the election stolen and accused President Trump of being an illegitimate President with many other Democrats for years after the election.
How long did it take her to concede to Trump? (She did so on election night.) How many cases did she or her supporters bring to court in an attempt to overturn the election. (None). Did she attempt to keep the electoral college from certifying the election? (No.) Did she encourage her supporters to go to the capitol in an attempt to stop the count? (No.) Did she send alternate slates of electors to Congress? (No.)

But yeah, keep telling us how this is exactly the same.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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How do you concede an election when for years after the election she publicly accused Trump of stealing the election and calling him an illegitimate President?

Please explain that huge discrepancy in your posts that you keep repeating over and over.

She is saying Trump "won" the election but he stole it by cheating and is illegitimate?

Definition of the word: allowed or admitted as true, proper, just, etc.:

Calling it stolen and calling the winner illegitimate for years after the election that kills your posts. Is she and many Democrats election "deniers"???????? or hypocrisy is a virtue now?
A losing candidate concedes by calling their opponent and congratulating them on their win, it's that easy.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:07 AM
 
Location: az
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Trumps win in 2016 was the biggest political upset in US history. The Dems/MSM were in complete and total shock for weeks. So they went after him from day one with that nonsense about Russian interference. "Not my President" was their rallying cry. . It was seen as a badge of honor by many to spout off the Trump presidency was illegitimate. Fast forward 2020 and it's a rigged election.

Neither side trusts the other and it's tearing the country apart. I think the leaders of both parties understand this needs to stop. Nov. will be a good test. To be sure half the country will be upset at the results. However, as long as the vote count is seen as honest those upset will just have to suck it up.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:30 AM
 
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If you remember. Hillary and Obama both quietly stepped aside when they lost. It was Trump when he won against Hillary that questioned the 3 million more popular votes she got over him, he couldn't stand that, it infuriated him. Biden got about 8 million more popular votes than Trump. Its the radical right that want a civil war because they cant get what they want.
Good post, exactly correct.

Part of this is Trump's ego. He was happy he won the electoral college but embarrassed that he lost the popular vote. It probably never occurred to him that such a thing was possible, until it happened, but usually Republicans who win the presidency lose the popular vote. It happens most of the time so Trump's result was not that unusual.

Nevertheless he worked very hard at convincing people that 3 million illegals voted. He started to plant the seeds then for what would be discrediting of our election system. Absolutely no proof but he didn't really need it, people who wanted to believe his claims did so.

He couldn't stand that Obama had bigger inauguration crowds than Trump did either. Of course, then the Trump following has to get on social media to try and convince everyone that Trump's inauguration crowd WAS bigger. It never mattered, but it got under Trump's skin and that is why it received all of the attention it did.

But Trump had other motivations for wanting to overturn the election in 2020. Yes, of course it was his usual ego problem, but more importantly he knew that holding the office had kept multiple lawsuits and investigations at bay. Trump knew that as a private citizen he would be liable for prosecution for some things he had been involved in, and he would be forced to make depositions in pending lawsuits.

Trump really needed to remain president. He would have wanted to be president for life, if that was possible. Losing that spot had far more serious implications for him than it had ever been for anyone else.
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