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Old 09-22-2022, 06:53 AM
 
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Cool.

Hillary sure did start a trend, didn't she?
Hillary, Gore, Pelosi, etc....the list is long and it's been going on for decades. Now, though, it's an issue.

"Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
Our election was hijacked. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracy & #FollowTheFacts."

https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/st...n-was-hijacked

"OVER 150 EXAMPLES OF DEMOCRATS DENYING ELECTION RESULTS"

https://gop.com/research/over-150-ex...n-results-rsr/

Both sides have a history of doing this. And surprisingly we haven't had a J6 type embarrassment before. The rhetoric is dangerous, and shows none of us should be opposed to absolute election integrity. The fact that so many were, just fuels the rhetoric. And for those that only focus on Trump and the GOP denying election results, ignoring both parties have been doing this for a long time, pull your head out of the echo chamber and stop being partisan hacks.
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Old 09-22-2022, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Hillary, Gore, Pelosi, etc....the list is long and it's been going on for decades. Now, though, it's an issue.

"Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
Our election was hijacked. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracy & #FollowTheFacts."

https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/st...n-was-hijacked

"OVER 150 EXAMPLES OF DEMOCRATS DENYING ELECTION RESULTS"

https://gop.com/research/over-150-ex...n-results-rsr/

Both sides have a history of doing this. And surprisingly we haven't had a J6 type embarrassment before. The rhetoric is dangerous, and shows none of us should be opposed to absolute election integrity. The fact that so many were, just fuels the rhetoric. And for those that only focus on Trump and the GOP denying election results, ignoring both parties have been doing this for a long time, pull your head out of the echo chamber and stop being partisan hacks.
Bad people on both sides?

Did anyone hold a rally on the day of vote certification and ransack the capitol based on massive fraud.
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Old 09-22-2022, 08:56 AM
 
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Bad people on both sides?

Did anyone hold a rally on the day of vote certification and ransack the capitol based on massive fraud.
While the rally at that time was a bit strange, you are aware of the First Amendment and Freedom of Assembly, aren't you ? Or is it only okay when it's people you approve of ?

As far as the asshats that went crazy in the Capitol building, that's on them, and they don't represent Republicans or people that vote for them. Hell, they were just a small fraction of the people at that rally, so that shows it was a small group of people that lost their minds.

Regardless, the fact you fail to acknowledge the Democrats have a long history of not accepting election results, proves you live in an echo chamber. Nothing but deflection.
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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While the rally at that time was a bit strange, you are aware of the First Amendment and Freedom of Assembly, aren't you ? Or is it only okay when it's people you approve of ?

As far as the asshats that went crazy in the Capitol building, that's on them, and they don't represent Republicans or people that vote for them. Hell, they were just a small fraction of the people at that rally, so that shows it was a small group of people that lost their minds.

Regardless, the fact you fail to acknowledge the Democrats have a long history of not accepting election results, proves you live in an echo chamber. Nothing but deflection.
The rally on the day of vote certification led by a president on the mail based on what he knew perfectly well was a lie was a bit strange, come on.

Yes democrats at time have criticized election results at times but never anything like we have seen now, never.

We didn’t have 200 democrats running for office in 2018 that couldn’t admit that Trump was president, democracy is in dangers territory like no time before.

Some republican legislatures are passing bills allowing them to overturn election results, when we only accept results for our party we are in big trouble.
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:33 AM
 
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Am I the only one who remembers one of the debates before the 2016 Election. The same question was asked by all the candidates and everybody said yes they would accept the results of the Election. Everybody but Trump and he was the only HONEST voice up there. Dem or Republican. Because everybody else, including Hilary Clinton, said they would accept the results. Yet to this day Hillary still thinks and says at times how she was cheated....Politicans will always say something in front of the cameras because they are more then willing to lie about anything, Trump told the truth upfront.

Does anybody, especially on the Dem side think that even if every Dem said they would accept the 2022 election that if they lose they wont be crying Foul within minutes of the posted results. Please.
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:37 AM
 
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The rally on the day of vote certification led by a president on the mail based on what he knew perfectly well was a lie was a bit strange, come on.

Yes democrats at time have criticized election results at times but never anything like we have seen now, never.
Not sure what you are trying to imply here. Should he (Trump) have had his First Amendment rights denied, and not have been allowed to have that rally ? He, like many other politicians before him, from both parties, did not believe in the results. That is his right, as well as all the others, and anyone in this country to think.
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Am I the only one who remembers one of the debates before the 2016 Election. The same question was asked by all the candidates and everybody said yes they would accept the results of the Election. Everybody but Trump and he was the only HONEST voice up there. Dem or Republican. Because everybody else, including Hilary Clinton, said they would accept the results. Yet to this day Hillary still thinks and says at times how she was cheated....Politicans will always say something in front of the cameras because they are more then willing to lie about anything, Trump told the truth upfront.

Does anybody, especially on the Dem side think that even if every Dem said they would accept the 2022 election that if they lose they wont be crying Foul within minutes of the posted results. Please.
https://youtu.be/bwc0cJ409VQ
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:50 AM
 
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The rally on the day of vote certification led by a president on the mail based on what he knew perfectly well was a lie was a bit strange, come on.

Yes democrats at time have criticized election results at times but never anything like we have seen now, never.

We didn’t have 200 democrats running for office in 2018 that couldn’t admit that Trump was president, democracy is in dangers territory like no time before.

Some republican legislatures are passing bills allowing them to overturn election results, when we only accept results for our party we are in big trouble.
If this was truly the case, it's even more the reason to ensure election integrity going forward. Yet one party kept crying about one thing or another every time a bill was proposed.

If Biden was a true leader, he would have pushed for the passage of the Election Integrity Act HR 1274, yet it is dead in the water.
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Is anyone asking Stacy Abrams to promise to accept the results of the 2022 election in advance?

Honestly, I wouldn’t “promise” anything at this point until after the election is over. Will we have Mark Zuckerberg meddling again by ensuring that areas important to Democrat turnout have plenty of drop boxes? Will random states make last-minute changes to their voting rules because of COVID or Monkeypox, that will later be identified as unconstitutional after the fact? Etc etc.
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:54 AM
 
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Is anyone asking Stacy Abrams to promise to accept the results of the 2022 election in advance?

Honestly, I wouldn’t “promise” anything at this point until after the election is over. Will we have Mark Zuckerberg meddling again by ensuring that areas important to Democrat turnout have plenty of drop boxes? Will random states make last-minute changes to their voting rules because of COVID or Monkeypox, that will later be identified as unconstitutional after the fact? Etc etc.
She had a "D" after her name, therefore get's a free pass to do as she pleases without fear of any backlash.
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