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The solution would be to implement proactive policing (even aggressive, but still legal policing) in the bad neighborhoods, and to have a large police presence everywhere (including undercovers). The problem is that it would be seen as racist, and a “police state.” You see how drastically this cut crime in NYC in the 90’s when Gulianni did this. Nowadays this wouldn’t fly. This would make cities safer, and education, jobs, and opportunities would increase.
The other side of the equation would need to be cultural. African Americans (I use this specifically because Africans and Caribbean blacks don’t have the same problems) will need to eliminate a culture of crime, violence, and misbehaving out in public in general. This comes from formative teaching of manners and how to behave at an early age (usually with a 2 parent household). Blacks tend to react aggressively and resort to violence more than others. Even improper speech seems to be embraced by black culture. Again this is more of an observation of African Americans specifically, so it’s more of a culture than a race thing. This is harder to address and I don’t have a good solution. Other than potentially changing policies to not encourage birth at very young ages when kids aren’t prepared to be parents.
The first thing we need to do is be on the same page about the demographics of crime.
There is an immediate reflex to call a person racist if they even dare to mention anything about this. The media will cancel you. Your employer will fire you. Even people who call themselves Republicans or conservatives are hesitant to speak about this.
The first thing we need to do is be on the same page about the demographics of crime.
There is an immediate reflex to call a person racist if they even dare to mention anything about this. The media will cancel you. Your employer will fire you. Even people who call themselves Republicans or conservatives are hesitant to speak about this.
This needs to stop.
Agree. Chicago is less than 30% black, yet almost 90% of violent crime in the city is committed by blacks (a report pre-pandemic/pre-2020 reported this, and I’m pretty sure it’s still true).
And it’s not solely an “income” issue either, because Latinos (about 30% of Chicago’s population, so roughly same population as blacks) have similar income levels and have significantly lower crime.
Lawndale, a neighborhood in Chicago is split into north and south sides, which are very different demographically. North Lawndale side is 90% black, South Lawndale is 90% Hispanic. Same neighborhood. Can you guess which side is significantly more violent, less safe, and generally more unkempt……as you can probably guess it’s t North Lawndale (which is 90% black). Again, same neighborhood, but there is an association between demographics and crime.
The solution would be to implement proactive policing (even aggressive, but still legal policing) in the bad neighborhoods, and to have a large police presence everywhere (including undercovers). The problem is that it would be seen as racist, and a “police state.” You see how drastically this cut crime in NYC in the 90’s when Gulianni did this. Nowadays this wouldn’t fly. This would make cities safer, and education, jobs, and opportunities would increase.
The other side of the equation would need to be cultural. African Americans (I use this specifically because Africans and Caribbean blacks don’t have the same problems) will need to eliminate a culture of crime, violence, and misbehaving out in public in general. This comes from formative teaching of manners and how to behave at an early age (usually with a 2 parent household). Blacks tend to react aggressively and resort to violence more than others. Even improper speech seems to be embraced by black culture. Again this is more of an observation of African Americans specifically, so it’s more of a culture than a race thing. This is harder to address and I don’t have a good solution. Other than potentially changing policies to not encourage birth at very young ages when kids aren’t prepared to be parents.
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer
The first thing we need to do is be on the same page about the demographics of crime.
There is an immediate reflex to call a person racist if they even dare to mention anything about this. The media will cancel you. Your employer will fire you. Even people who call themselves Republicans or conservatives are hesitant to speak about this.
This needs to stop.
Well said and spot on. Until the problem is addressed like this, we will never see a solution to it.
The first thing we need to do is be on the same page about the demographics of crime.
There is an immediate reflex to call a person racist if they even dare to mention anything about this. The media will cancel you. Your employer will fire you. Even people who call themselves Republicans or conservatives are hesitant to speak about this.
This needs to stop.
In order for that to stop, there needs to be mutual trust. Fact is, thanks to the history of America, such trust is still lacking.
The solution would be to implement proactive policing (even aggressive, but still legal policing) in the bad neighborhoods, and to have a large police presence everywhere (including undercovers). The problem is that it would be seen as racist, and a “police state.” You see how drastically this cut crime in NYC in the 90’s when Gulianni did this. Nowadays this wouldn’t fly. This would make cities safer, and education, jobs, and opportunities would increase.
Bingo, we have a winner folks.
1. More proactive police, stop and frisk, etc. You cannot commit a crime when a cop is on every inner city corner, it's just not going to happen.
2. Stop subsidizing single parent households. We turned welfare from an emergency fund to a way of life, paying people to have kids out of wedlock, and paying them even more when they kick the father out the house.
But those policies will be called racist, so the left prefers the war zones and endless death instead.
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer
There is an immediate reflex to call a person racist if they even dare to mention anything about this. The media will cancel you. Your employer will fire you. Even people who call themselves Republicans or conservatives are hesitant to speak about this.
This needs to stop.
True. If America was half as racist as the left claims, there would be no black millionaires and billionaires living here. They would've all moved someplace else.
By all means, live in the past....no wonder we can't see these issues progress and be solved.
William Faulkner once said "The past is never dead. It's not even past". I'm just telling it like it is. Some people will talk about these issues, just not publicly.
William Faulkner once said "The past is never dead. It's not even past". I'm just telling it like it is. Some people will talk about these issues, just not publicly.
The interesting thing, and it might just be anecdotal, those that focus on looking forward, instead of wallowing in the past, end up much more successful and not in the system.
The solution would be to implement proactive policing (even aggressive, but still legal policing) in the bad neighborhoods, and to have a large police presence everywhere (including undercovers). The problem is that it would be seen as racist, and a “police state.” You see how drastically this cut crime in NYC in the 90’s when Gulianni did this. Nowadays this wouldn’t fly. This would make cities safer, and education, jobs, and opportunities would increase.
The other side of the equation would need to be cultural. African Americans (I use this specifically because Africans and Caribbean blacks don’t have the same problems) will need to eliminate a culture of crime, violence, and misbehaving out in public in general. This comes from formative teaching of manners and how to behave at an early age (usually with a 2 parent household). Blacks tend to react aggressively and resort to violence more than others. Even improper speech seems to be embraced by black culture. Again this is more of an observation of African Americans specifically, so it’s more of a culture than a race thing. This is harder to address and I don’t have a good solution. Other than potentially changing policies to not encourage birth at very young ages when kids aren’t prepared to be parents.
No one is calling you racist.
But you seem to paint African-Americans with a broad brush.
Do you see this with African-Americans in higher income level areas, or areas where there are very educated African-Americans?
I’m curious.
And no, you don’t have a hood solution. And not once did I mention the past.
The interesting thing, and it might just be anecdotal, those that focus on looking forward, instead of wallowing in the past, end up much more successful and not in the system.
A wise black woman once said to me, “ if I don’t go looking for racism, it doesn’t come looking for me.”
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