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I still want facts on how Trump would have stopped it. How about your own words instead of posting articles.
Lol. They’ve been provided many times.
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Trump having a good relationship with Putin aren’t facts. You have to know the history of the Soviet Union and why Putin invaded Ukraine. It was inevitable. No one could have stopped it.
Please provide facts that because Trump and Putin didn’t have a good relationship, and please be specific?
Please provide facts why it was inevitable that Putin attacked Ukraine, and please be specific?
Anyone who thinks Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine b/c Trump was prez needs a reality check. There would be zero reason for Trump to oppose Putin - and Putin knows it. Putin is bent on restoring Russia to its former glory - at any cost it would appear. He's now got protestors in Russia demonstrating against the war - because he's running out of troops and is calling in the reserves. None of these people want to be cannon fodder.
Trump would have done ZERO to stop Putin. His public reasoning (putting aside his personal financial interests) - not our business.
This is exactly correct. Both Putin and Trump want to see NATO dissolved so Putin would have invaded with no help from the US. The Trumpster's would have said it is none of our business and praised Trump for not getting us involved. Our European allies would be fearful because they know he would not have stopped with Ukraine.
Not a chance. The United States was respected during the four strong years President Trump was in office.
No he was not respected one little bit. I guess you don't get much news out of state, like world news from other broadcasters in other countries, where you can get a wider view of the big picture. If you had you would know better.
Trump highly disrespected Canada and I am Canadian. He did the same with US allies and he damaged USA's reputation. Biden is saving you guys from losing your place in the world.
I see you didn’t understand or ignored the articles presented, and continue to dismiss that because Trump was able to keep the peace with foreign leaders, including Putin, hence no war.
Please provide facts that because Trump and Putin didn’t have a good relationship, and please be specific?
Please provide facts why it was inevitable that Putin attacked Ukraine, and please be specific?
Where is your proof that if Trump was in office in 2022 Putin wouldn’t have invaded?
Past behaviour doesn’t count. There’s no guarantee that Trump’s arse kissing of Putin would have stopped it. We don’t have any way of seeing what would have actually happened in an alternate reality.
Is Trump while president on record as assuring Putin that he would be strongly opposed to any more countries at or near the Russian border becoming new members of NATO? Ukraine would be one of them. If not, then Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was still president.
Trump might have been tough but he was respected by Putin and by Kim Jong-un
Sometimes being a jerk gets you sweeter treatment. That’s why Trump built a wall, yet Mexican American voters some who NEVER voted Republican, crossed party lines and voted Trump in 2020 in Tex-Mex towns because he employed them , and many who never participated in voting turned up to vote for Trump
Trump also won big in the entire blue collar rust belt in 2016 and even in parts of Iowa that are very progressive liberal respected and chose Trump in 2016 and even stronger in 2020
On North Korea Trump enabled the closest we ever got to uniting the Koreas into one
Trump charged US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and no blood In the sand , in fact UAE normalized visa relations with Israel , and Trump even got love from Taliban to reform
Trump was loved by Putin and he wouldn’t have launched any war with Ukraine if Trump were president .
Trump’s talk wasn’t popular but the accomplishments he achieved under his administration were loved all over the world.
Where in the Constitution does it say America should get involved?
It would be better if Trump, and every president, actually followed the Constitution and the founders intent.
This is exactly correct. Both Putin and Trump want to see NATO dissolved so Putin would have invaded with no help from the US. The Trumpster's would have said it is none of our business and praised Trump for not getting us involved.
The Constitution gives us our marching orders and not NATO.
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Our European allies would be fearful because they know he would not have stopped with Ukraine.
hahahahahaha yea that's what other countries are thinking.
Where is your proof that if Trump was in office in 2022 Putin wouldn’t have invaded?
Agreed
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Originally Posted by FinsterRufus
Past behaviour doesn’t count. There’s no guarantee that Trump’s arse kissing of Putin would have stopped it. We don’t have any way of seeing what would have actually happened in an alternate reality.
In other words, you’re speculating.
Trump’s arse kissing of Putin??? lol In other words, you are easily misled.
Trump might have been tough but he was respected by Putin and by Kim Jong-un
Sometimes being a jerk gets you sweeter treatment. That’s why Trump built a wall, yet Mexican American voters some who NEVER voted Republican, crossed party lines and voted Trump in 2020 in Tex-Mex towns because he employed them , and many who never participated in voting turned up to vote for Trump
Trump also won big in the entire blue collar rust belt in 2016 and even in parts of Iowa that are very progressive liberal respected and chose Trump in 2016 and even stronger in 2020
On North Korea Trump enabled the closest we ever got to uniting the Koreas into one
Trump charged US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and no blood In the sand , in fact UAE normalized visa relations with Israel , and Trump even got love from Taliban to reform
Trump was loved by Putin and he wouldn’t have launched any war with Ukraine if Trump were president .
Trump’s talk wasn’t popular but the accomplishments he achieved under his administration were loved all over the world.
For all his faults Trump is a man of peace --- the war would either be over by now or Putin wouldn't have invaded to begin with.
Nice job, Trump haters - war mongering deep state globalist democrats. It's because of your TDS that the world is in the situation it's in.
For all his faults Trump is a man of peace --- the war would either be over by now or Putin wouldn't have invaded to begin with.
Nice job, Trump haters - war mongering deep state globalist democrats. It's because of your TDS that the world is in the situation it's in.
How? How would the war be over by now?
And you have no idea whether it would have started to begin with.
You aren’t in Putin’s head. You don’t know what would or would not have stopped him.
I think Trump dodged a bullet not being re-elected. There’s no telling whether he would have had to deal with this mess or not. He may have had just as much trouble on his hands as Biden does.
This way he can sit back and criticise without having to prove himself, just like he used to do.
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