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That’s no proof Putin wouldn’t have acted when he did.
Quite the assumption.
Nah, he waited until because Trump was no longer in charge. It’s okay to admit there was no war under because Trump, and war for a second time with Sleepy Joe in office. Putin played him beautifully, especially selling him oil, lol.
The strawman arguments are great stuff. Worked out great for us with because Trump and Putin. Not at all with Sleepy Joe and Putin.
No it is history's lesson....
Straw man argument define:
"A straw man argument, sometimes called a straw person argument or spelled strawman argument, is the logical fallacy of distorting an opposing position into an extreme version of itself and then arguing against that extreme version."
Stating that Britain's appeasement of Germany did not work out well is simply a reflection that history does have a tendency to repeat itself.
If I were to say "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." as a reason... one could argue that would be a straw man argument.
"A straw man argument, sometimes called a straw person argument or spelled strawman argument, is the logical fallacy of distorting an opposing position into an extreme version of itself and then arguing against that extreme version."
Stating that Britain's appeasement of Germany did not work out well is simply a reflection that history does have a tendency to repeat itself…hence your Germany strawman argument and mu tendency holds no water. Because Trump no war, Sleepy Joe there’s war, again.
If I were to say "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." as a reason... one could argue that would be a straw man argument.
Nah, they’re strawman arguments to try to defend Sleepy Joe who was unable to keep the peace like his predecessor. Because Trump had no problem doing it with Putin and other foreign leaders.
Trump might have been tough but he was respected by Putin and by Kim Jong-un
Sometimes being a jerk gets you sweeter treatment. That’s why Trump built a wall, yet Mexican American voters some who NEVER voted Republican, crossed party lines and voted Trump in 2020 in Tex-Mex towns because he employed them , and many who never participated in voting turned up to vote for Trump
Trump also won big in the entire blue collar rust belt in 2016 and even in parts of Iowa that are very progressive liberal respected and chose Trump in 2016 and even stronger in 2020
On North Korea Trump enabled the closest we ever got to uniting the Koreas into one
Trump charged US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and no blood In the sand , in fact UAE normalized visa relations with Israel , and Trump even got love from Taliban to reform
Trump was loved by Putin and he wouldn’t have launched any war with Ukraine if Trump were president .
Trump’s talk wasn’t popular but the accomplishments he achieved under his administration were loved all over the world.
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Youre right, Russia would have never attacked Ukraine if Trump was President.
Nah, he waited until because Trump was no longer in charge. It’s okay to admit there was no war under because Trump, and war for a second time with Sleepy Joe in office. Putin played him beautifully, especially selling him oil, lol.
Proof “waited until Trump was no longer in charge” was Putin’s reasoning? Quite the assumption.
Here’s what John Bolton has to say about it.
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Bolton: No, he did not. He did not. We didn’t sanction Nord Stream 2…we should have, we should have brought the project to an end. We did impose sanctions on Russian oligarchs and several others because of their sales of S-400 antiaircraft systems to other countries. But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it saying we were being too hard. The fact is that he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It is just not accurate to say that Trump’s behavior somehow deterred the Russians. I think the evidence is that Russia didn’t feel that their military was ready.
Where’s your proof that isn’t true? Where’s your proof that your speculation is more accurate than Bolton’s?
If Trump were still President he would probably be sending aid and weapons to Russia not Ukraine!
He would most likely want to join the 'new Axis of Evil'....considering his Bromance with Putin.
Putin had FOUR YEARS to attack Ukraine while orange man was in office
If “Putins puppet” was going to support Russias war effort, WHY DID PUTIN WAIT UNTIL BRANDON WAS IN OFFICE????
please please please, stop for two seconds, turn off your damn television and dedicate just a little critical thought to this.
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For all his faults Trump is a man of peace --- the war would either be over by now or Putin wouldn't have invaded to begin with.
Nice job, Trump haters - war mongering deep state globalist democrats. It's because of your TDS that the world is in the situation it's in.
Do you mean Mr Dump and Run? You forget he abandoned our allies the Kurds in Syria and turned over influence peddling to Russia, of course the Kurds suffered but hey if you can't help out a friend. Wasn't so many months ago that Putin was talking about bringing in troops from his ally Syria, guess that dump and run Trump did has paid off.
Oh we can hate Trump but nothing the US did caused Russia to illegally invade a country but you keep believing that your tin solder would have made any difference.
Proof “waited until Trump was no longer in charge” was Putin’s reasoning? Quite the assumption.
Here’s what John Bolton has to say about it.
Where’s your proof that isn’t true? Where’s your proof that your speculation is more accurate than Bolton’s?
Certainly not an assumption. It’s when he attacked and got some US money to help fund his war by selling us oil.
As if Boltons opinion is gospel. He must’ve forgot to say that it’s the 2nd time Putin attacked with Sleepy Joe in office, lol. Peace is better than war, and that’s what we had under because Trump, and that’s fact.
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So much leftist BS is why I've stepped away for a few days - stupidity at it's finest and it's always the same ones.
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