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I see the same thing. And there are actual environmental causes for much of this too. Our environment psychologically leans in this direction for sure, but there are chemical components to this as well. From plastic bottles to plastic lined canned goods, to food rife with compounds that have estrogenic affects, this is affecting the testosterone levels of males at very early developmental stages, and on going. I heard recently that the testosterone levels of today’s teenaged young men are lower than the levels of a 7 year old boy 75 years ago. That’s terrifying. Testosterone is what makes a man a man. And the health consequences, physically and psychologically are severe. Low T is a major cause of depression in men. Depression impacts every aspect of a person’s life, resulting in a lack of drive, competitiveness, success, and self esteem. Couple this with the psychological effects of society dismissing men as non-essential, and replaceable, and you have a recipe for disaster. Young men, by and large gain much of their self worth through their experience and acceptance from others, and particularly when it comes to females. Nobody enjoys rejection and failure, but we all experience it from time to time, and learn to deal with it. However, if you don’t also balance that with measures of success and acceptance, and all there is is rejection and failure, that would have to qualify as a living hell.
Then, top it all off with the dismissive attitudes demonstrated here, that only makes a bad situation that much worse. I have tremendous compassion and empathy for these young men, who are often referred to a soy boys. It’s not their fault, but they have to endure the gross unfairness. It’s a sad situation.
I’m glad someone brought up the issues with plastics in the water and our many of our goods that are made out of them with the harmful effects that BPA has. It’s also good to highlight the foods, also I have heard about the estrogen from birth control pills entering the tap water supply, but apparently it makes up less than 1 % of estrogens in the drinking water, but who knows what kind of effect this is having on male development.
It seems that Pilot 1 just likes to boost himself by saying he has more of a chance with these young women than their “soy boy” peers do. Never underestimate the ability of a man to kick other men down while in the presence of women.
So then why when a women is at her prime she compromises all these so called values ? Then at older age it's values again? What man in his right mind is going to take that deal?
Good grief. No one is compromising. When women are at their prime as you put it or when people (men and women) are in their youth they have different goals and priorities, they want different things. They are inexperienced. We grow and mature and learn from our life's choices and began to view life differently as we age. Men are no different.
Yeah, everyone wants tight buns and no wrinkles but older men age just like women do and young women with tight buns and no wrinkles dont want an old man with thinning hair, wrinkles, saggy balls, and a prescription for Viagra.
Sure there are exception and those are the women who are after money and security. Men without that to offer are out in the cold. If you want someone who wants you for your money and security instead of for you, have at it. I know men dont like to believe that but again SURVEY SAYS the majority of couples are within ~2 years age difference.
Perhaps girls/young women tend to mature sooner than boys/young men. As a mature man they can more easily interact with you and they are not concerned with your opinion of them.
Your first statement is not controversial.
Whether by design or adaptation, girls mature earlier, peaking in intelligence and social skills at an earlier age.
This is the basis of Richard Lynn's much maligned, yet undoubtedly true, Developmental Theory, postulating that men's IQ advantage in adulthood stems from the delayed maturity of boys relative to girls. ie. Longer development = greater peak aptitude in the long term.
Throughout history, girls generally wedded earlier than boys, often around the age of 12 to 14, typically to men much older than themselves. Earlier maturity in girls may be rooted in sociobiology, stemming from historic practices in which girls took on marital duties and obligations from an early age. The same may be true for the romantic age gap, referring to Pilot1's anecdote.
Historically, husband-wife relationships resembled father-daughter relationships in the typological sense.
As sticky as that may be from a feminist point of view, these traits will probably never go away.
Blessings and nothing but well wishes for your incredible Aunt. Let me ask you a question. Is your Aunt a nice person? Great personality? Kind? Caring? Supportive? Submissive to her man? Does she keep herself in the best shape possible? Good cook? Does she bring all of these qualities and more to the table?
I'm betting she is a nice person with a great personality and kind and caring a supportive because those are the qualities/standards whatever you wish to call them that people (men and women) are looking for later in life.
Most people don't want a submissive child they want an equal partner. Nor do most women want to be a maid, nurse and cook.
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Ask yourself this. A woman in her prime. Guess what? All she has to bring is herself.
And thus the high divorce rate. When you are with someone just because of their looks or their money, you will soon be very disappointed and unhappy.
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Imagina a woman who is none of those things at 50 looking for a top tier guy.
Your still under the illusion that older women, or most women are looking for a top tier guy according to your definition. Remember it is not the 50+ women or the 40+ women or even the 30+ men who are complaining about some crisis they are suffering due to women's accomplishments. It is the men.
I have plenty of valid responses but nothing you blabbered on about has anything to do with men being in crisis. I dont care to discuss your insecurities with you.
Contrary to the protestations of some here that this is an imaginary problem, or that the problem doesn’t have negative societal consequences, the problem is proven by data and evidence, and is not opinion or speculation.
That this might exist outside your awareness only points to a lack of awareness.
What's really happening is people present you with strong evidence and even proof of mistakes on your part and you deflect, deny, play words games and just generally joke it up.
Care to highlight the strong evidence and proof that men are in crisis?
Whether by design or adaptation, girls mature earlier, peaking in intelligence and social skills at an earlier age.
This is the basis of Richard Lynn's much maligned, yet undoubtedly true, Developmental Theory, postulating that men's IQ advantage in adulthood stems from the delayed maturity of boys relative to girls. ie. Longer development = greater peak aptitude in the long term.
Throughout history, girls generally wedded earlier than boys, often around the age of 12 to 14, typically to men much older than themselves. Earlier maturity in girls may be rooted in sociobiology, stemming from historic practices in which girls took on marital duties and obligations from an early age. The same may be true for the romantic age gap, referring to Pilot1's anecdote.
Historically, husband-wife relationships resembled father-daughter relationships in the typological sense.
As sticky as that may be from a feminist point of view, these traits will probably never go away.
Well, thanks for that but I didnt say or imply it was controversial. I was pointing it out as a reason perhaps that young women were more likely to appear to have those traits and engage with older people than would young men. I'm not sure why anyone would have issue with that point of view.
Contrary to the protestations of some here that this is an imaginary problem, or that the problem doesn’t have negative societal consequences, the problem is proven by data and evidence, and is not opinion or speculation.
That this might exist outside your awareness only points to a lack of awareness.
Youtube influencers are not data and evidence.
Again the crisis talking points are more women are getting college degrees, men aren't having enough sex and college educated successful women arent marrying down.
Not a crisis.
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