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Old 09-21-2022, 08:37 PM
 
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Were there many laws governing the acquisition, ownership and carrying of guns in 1791? Nope. Not many.
That's just false. There were many MORE gun laws in that period and later in frontier areas than many of the 2nd amendment folks now realize or admit.

Myself, I don't have any guns. Just like the NRA predicted, Obama confiscated them all.
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:44 PM
 
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When will the gun control act of 1968 be overturned?
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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It is hard to argue for gun control when there is rising violence and innocent people are being hurt and killed by criminals.


We all know, well those of us with common sense, that the vast majority of shootings are carried out by criminals, gang members and the deranged that are using illegally obtained and held guns. The vast majority of law abiding citizen gun owners would never us their firearms in a criminal way.

It all boils down to the Democrats have made the streets unsafe with their soft on crime policies and people are afraid. People are tired of being victims and with the Democrats Defunding the Police they have left us without much choice.



No one wants to shoot anyone but when some loser is beating down your door to get to you for robbery, rape or murder it sure is a comfort knowing that you can defend yourself if you are forced to.
Yeah, and the baddie bads don't go to gun stores for their heaters anyway. This crap is all frosting, no cake.

It's all about Honest Citizen Control, these dorks don't care about crimes committed against the Great Unwashed. They care about control.

Period. To quote Barry Soetoro the Kenyan who Can.

Huh? He's an Irishman?? Really??!!
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:06 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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That's just false. There were many MORE gun laws in that period and later in frontier areas than many of the 2nd amendment folks now realize or admit.

Myself, I don't have any guns. Just like the NRA predicted, Obama confiscated them all.
Feel free to enumerate those gun laws.

I'd love to see them.
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:10 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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When will the gun control act of 1968 be overturned?
They can start with the "sporting purposes" requirement for imports.
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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California's "assault weapon" and standard-capacity magazine bans are doomed and Newsom and his cronies know it. All they can do at this point is stall, which is what they are attempting. Roger Benitez, the judge that ruled both the magazine and "assault rifle" bans unconstitutional (Duncan v. Becerra for magazines; Miller v. Bonta for rifles), will have no part of their stalling and in the case of Duncan v. Becerra, has demanded the state respond by October or November, IIRC. With any luck, that ban will be overturned next year.

I can't wait to see fully-functioning AR-15s and the like in our stores again. I might just buy a SCAR for the hell of it.

After that, we can go after the handgun roster (which is a complete joke) and get shall-issue CCW statewide.
Micro stamping. What a fabricated bunch of nonsense.
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:11 PM
 
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Feel free to enumerate those gun laws.

I'd love to see them.
Check it out:


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Yet even now, far too few understand or appreciate the fact that though gun possession is as old as America, so too are gun laws. But there’s more: gun laws were not only ubiquitous, numbering in the thousands, but also spanned every conceivable category of regulation, from gun acquisition, sale, possession, transport, and use, including deprivation of use through outright confiscation, to hunting and recreational regulations, to registration and express gun bans.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=post-colon...=v233-1&ia=web

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Similar to the practices in England, the American colonies had numerous gun-control laws concerning safety, crime, hunting, the common defense, and even slaves.
https://www.britannica.com/technolog...-United-States

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Old 09-21-2022, 10:46 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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It is hard to argue for gun control when there is rising violence and innocent people are being hurt and killed by criminals.
That would be "hurt and killed by criminals with guns". You forgot that last part.
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Old 09-21-2022, 11:05 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Micro stamping. What a fabricated bunch of nonsense.
California anti-gunners knew the technology is unviable, which is why they require it on new guns. See AB 2847.

AB 2847 will remove 3 "non-complaint" guns from the roster for every AB 2847 gun added.

After several years, by elimination, ALL semiautos sold in California will (must) have:

1. Microstamping.
2. A magazine disconnect.
3. A manual safety.
4. A loaded chamber indicator.

The funny thing is, Glocks, the #1 choice for California law enforcement, has NONE of the four items listed above.

That means California cops will be banned from owning new Glocks, just like everyone else. I don't see any exception for law enforcement, but they may get one.

This is how California will ban handguns.

The roster has to go away. With the SCOTUS ruling of late, this is the next unconstitutional law to attack.
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Old 09-21-2022, 11:16 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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No one cares what the various kings of England imposed on the colonies. I noticed most of those links are interested in gun control as it was imposed by the king or on slaves.

What is important is what happened in the United States.

Here's one of your "proofs."

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All of the colonies – apart from Quaker-dominated Pennsylvania, the one colony in which religious pacifists blocked the creation of a militia – enrolled local citizens, white men between the ages of 16-60 in state-regulated militias. The colonies and then the newly independent states kept track of these privately owned weapons required for militia service. Men could be fined if they reported to a muster without a well-maintained weapon in working condition.
So, the example for gun registration is keeping track of militia members (male citizens between 16 and 60) and their arms, so if called upon they would have a working firearm with ammunition to repel invaders or local would-be tyrants.

Note this is the same militia the anti-gunners say never existed because the Second Amendment applies to the Army. lol. You can't have it both ways.
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