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Old 09-22-2022, 08:02 AM
 
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Russia's leadership is doing it to themselves.
Ukraine: We have killed over a dozen Russian generals.
Stalin: Amateurs.
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Old 09-22-2022, 08:03 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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There may be a change in leadership but I don't see the collapse of Russia itself, and there is no real credible evidence to support this.
Just the MSM harping on how Russia will fall "any day now".
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Old 09-22-2022, 08:04 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Russia did not believe the world would take any action which would hurt themselves, so Russia did as it pleased.
They were wrong. Russia immediately lost access to half its reserves, and witnesses a near total collapse of imports, too. While they may have anticipated sanctions, they did not anticipate being unable to participate in world economics and did not anticipate the over 1200 companies who left Russia.
In the end, Russia will have destroyed itself. Russians who are able to leave the country are now doing so.
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Old 09-22-2022, 08:05 AM
 
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And it looks like China is next in line after Russia with the actions the US has taken recently.

A mere "coincidence" that China and Russia did not agree to the WEF 2020 goals ????



China is better liked and accepted than Russia is by the rest of the world. There are competitions and political conflicts between China and the US-led allies, but it has a lot to do with who the chinese leader is. Chinese foreign policy is a lot more adaptive than Russia's and they will change to get along with the rest of the world eventually. Russia can only be brought down through missiles and drones.
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Old 09-22-2022, 08:06 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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China is better liked and accepted than Russia is by the rest of the world. There are competitions and political conflicts between China and the US-led allies, but it has a lot to do with who the chinese leader is. Chinese foreign policy is a lot more adaptive than Russia's and they will change to get along with the rest of the world eventually. Russia can only be brought down through missiles and drones.
I have one word:....Taiwan
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Old 09-22-2022, 08:17 AM
 
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I have one word:....Taiwan

Taiwan will be there enjoying their freedom in constant fear of China attack until when China feels confident in doing so. I don't think that CCP has the guts to replicate the Ukraine situation of Russia for itself in the coming2 decades at least.
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:27 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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That's not entirely true. Their contributions towards space travel, science and defeating the Nazis benefited the world.
I suppose that's true.

But with every positive there are one or more matching negatives.

Defeat Nazis. Positive.
Occupy previously Nazis-occupied lands and install system just as bad as the Nazis minus the mass genocide (if you don't count the Holodomor, which occurred prior to WWII.) Subjugate millions of people in the name of Marxism. Multiple negatives.
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:35 AM
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Leave Russia alone. Let Russia do Russia.
We have to stop sticking our noses in places they don’t belong.
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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I suppose that's true.

But with every positive there are one or more matching negatives.

Defeat Nazis. Positive.
Occupy previously Nazis-occupied lands and install system just as bad as the Nazis minus the mass genocide (if you don't count the Holodomor, which occurred prior to WWII.) Subjugate millions of people in the name of Marxism. Multiple negatives.

True. But the competition motivated the USA to be great. It motivated us to get to the moon and back safely. It motivated the development of a lot of technology that has greatly improved our standard of living and well being. It's great that we defeated it, but the modern day form of Russia that has taken it's place is not much of an improvement.


That whole region has a long history of being a clusteryouknowwhat. And then combine it with Marxism... Yikes.




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Leave Russia alone. Let Russia do Russia.
We have to stop sticking our noses in places they don’t belong.

Russia shouldn't be invading neighboring countries. They should stop sticking their noses in places they don't belong. Otherwise, Ivan may not have a nose to sniff with much longer.
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:40 AM
 
Location: NJ
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After the fall of Soviet Union, it is time to witness the fall of Russia. Although the US plays tons of dirty politics on the world stage, it is much better a entity compared to the aggressive and declining Russian regime. Ukraine war offers a perfect opportunity for the world to unite around the US to disintegrate Russia. I feel things are heading in the right direction. The world will be a much better for lace for being Russia free soon.
No one trying to disintegrate Russia, all energy directed a war mongering despot using the russian people as a disposable element to stroke his ego.
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