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Old 09-27-2022, 11:08 AM
 
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It makes it sound like there's a policy agenda, but they didn't introduce one. On the Senate side, Mitch said earlier in the year, that he and the party have no agenda, at least not one that they will discuss until after people have voted.
Wow! I just noticed you and at least one other very new to this forum. Welcome!

Good catch, and no one can argue that these sorts of political tactics work wonders for people who can't really be bothered with the details. They'll fill in the blanks with whatever they want to think, and then think there's some sort of actual policy or agenda behind these sorts of "commitments" and promises.

You are too new to know how it usually goes in this forum, but I'm always just trying to promote a more intelligent discussion that might benefit any American rather than let the typical short dummy comments riddle the thread to oblivion. Your comment seems more in line with what I'd like to further promote. Specifics, details, facts. Thanks, as it's time for me to sign off now. Perhaps until we meet again. Cheers.

Here's to a better America! One way or another!
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Old 09-27-2022, 11:12 AM
 
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By the 'elites', do you mean the Trump family? Just curious as to who these 'elites' are.
Elitism has nothing to do with monetary status. Both Biden and Trump are very wealthy people.

Another example: Gavin Newsom has a net worth of $20 Million and Gregg Abbott has a net worth of about $23 Million .. .. Both are in the same monetary league... but I would categorize Gavin Newsom as a much bigger elitists than I would Gregg Abbott...

Elitism has to do with pushing your agenda or will over the lawful rights of taxpaying people for the sake of personal prosperity as well as progression of agenda. They believe that they are greater than anyone who opposes their ideals only because of what they believe, and their ideals typically go towards giving more (unrightful) power to 'Monetary Elites' who have no business in politics, and quite possibly do not even have citizenship in this country or best interest of its people.

It isn't about money. Its about control and power.

Elitism is when...

-- You allow hordes of homeless camps to setup all over the city the no regard of the ill-will they do to tax-paying citizens... regardless if they camp out infront of your home, business, bother your children .. while you profit off of the condemned properties and buy up multi-million dollar hotels as excuses to house the homeless .. while there's not a single camp infront of city hall or the mayors house.

-- You remove waiting restrictions for Asylum seekers knowing full well that most of the refugees do not qualify for Asylum, allow them to over run border towns and southern states, give them voting rights so they can overturn conservative governments... ...but quickly ship them off when only 50 of them show up in Martha's Vineyard.

-- You promote 'inequality' through racial preference of minorities, rather than racial 'equality' only because races have had a more difficult time in their uprising in this country (which I won't refute) so they should have less repercussions when they make bad financial choices or commit crimes over law abiding citizens.

-- Lessen the punishment of crimes, some times even felony level and allow them to run through the streets with no regard to law abiding people who pay taxes expecting government to protect them, who instead defunds, and removes police and tells you to take a hike if you have a legitimate problem with it.

-- Tell everyone to shelter in place despite the fact that most Covid-19 cases were occuring in high-density housing filled to the brim with minorities while you go eat a nice steak dinner, get your nails done, or fly to Cabo.

Elitism is a sense of self entitlement. It has nothing to do with how rich someone is.

Trump wasn't the brightest in the bunch, but he did have the best interest of the American people and that I have to respect him for. The leftist media heavily crucified him because they needed him out the way to push their socialist agenda.

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Old 09-27-2022, 11:13 AM
 
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I can appreciate the sentiments you share as common among conservatives, but here too, how about some specifics, because these sorts of generalities don't help anyone learn anything I don't think...

Again for example, what makes Biden's accomplishments or failings better or worse than Trump's? Which do you have in mind, specifically, with regard to Biden and Trump? Is overturning Roe V Wade a good thing far as you are concerned for example? If yes, this tells us something. If no, also telling. Basically as always, the "good, bad and ugly" is a function of one's perspective, ideology. Is denying the election results a good thing or a bad thing far as you are concerned?

See what I'm getting at? Something other than the typical standard rhetoric to nowhere?

What that Dick or Liz Cheney has explained is not worth serious consideration far as you are concerned? Note Dick Cheney was not very long ago considered a conservative hero among conservatives. The kind Democrats loved to hate! How can his point of view be "thrown out" just like that now? What, specifically, do you dispute or discount from the Lincoln Project?

Without these sorts of details and explanations, just like with the "Commitment to America," we're all just "whistling Dixie." We can do better than that. Can't we?!?
Roe v Wade means nothing to me. I don’t care one way or the other, but I definitely don’t like my tax dollars being used to correct someone’s poor choices. Same reason I don’t like welfare or any other program. If you can’t take care of yourself, you shouldn’t exist.

I feel like Biden failed us all in Afghanistan.
I don’t like his energy policy.
I don’t like his Middle East policy.
I don’t like his immigration stance.
I don’t like his silence on the rise in crime.
I don’t like how he just let inflation rise and rise.

But most importantly, he isn’t a leader. He’s just an 80 year old who can read a teleprompter, and not all that well, if we are being honest.

The military is having recruiting problems right now, and it’s because of Biden’s lack of leadership. He’s an imbecile.
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Old 09-27-2022, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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“GOP commitment” translates to this…

Republicans have no plan in the affirmative. Their answer is to drop the ban hammer, and be stupid with pride while doing it.

Another tactic is to come up a solution in search of a problem. Keep the culture wars going.

Don’t forget their pet trannies, pedos and tranny-pedos that live rent free in their polluted heads.

BTW when the SHTF on a large scale you are guaranteed there will be no contingency plan aside from pointing fingers.

It’s a shame that the alternative is not any better.
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Old 09-27-2022, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Another tactic is to come up a solution in search of a problem. Keep the culture wars going.

Don’t forget their pet trannies, pedos and tranny-pedos that live rent free in their polluted heads.
LOL.

Reminds me of that "furry" nonsense they were so worked up about a few months ago.

According to the right wingers kids who identified as cats were demanding to have litter boxes available in schools all across the country.

Never heard a word about the kids who identified as dogs and simply wanted to poop and pee on the floor though.
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Old 09-27-2022, 11:50 AM
 
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Elitism has everything to do with money and status mixed with an idea that the poor are nothing but crime committing freeloaders while thinking it’s totally cool to send desperate people to another location with bad information and calling Fox News instead of immigration offices of the location you’ve sent them to.

Elitists would not give people humanitarian aid when they arrive unexpectedly.
They do not have an authorized legal entitlement to our country. Even the CBP estimates that only 5% of those apprehended at the border actually qualify for Asylum. We are denying them nothing regardless of where they come from or what their conditions are. So yes, they are committing a crime as they are not respecting our immigration laws. That is problem number one. Here is problem number two: You believe that someones circumstances should give them an entilement over law.. ..I'm sorry, but you're incorrect. How would you like it if vagrancy levels were to increase and Government released laws over home invasions only because those people without a home feel they should be entitled to your possesions only because you appear to be doing better than themselves? If you want to help them, by all means.. ..but should that be enforced on you if you did not?

That stated, I do not however believe that 'all' of them are coming here seeking ill-will... and I will agree with their economic effects on labor, but the process of how they are allowing so many of them to cross our borders without documentation is an asinine expectation. We are not expecting anything more from them than we expect from our own people who pay income tax and receive benefits thereof from those taxes. What the left is doing is prioritizing people who have no legal authorization to be here over national citizens.

You are right, about the last sentence.. ..they did 'not' give them any humanitarian aid. They shipped them off of to Cape Cod with the excuse that Cape Cod was more suited to help them despite them having more than enough resources to do similarly.

Trump and Conservatives are enforcing the nations laws.. ..that is not insensitive.. ..that is process
Biden and the Liberals are releasing laws and not upholding the rights of the American people whom pay taxes for government to support them.
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Old 09-27-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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Loving the “concern trolling” here. As if the folks who are very concerned about this document would vote for a Republican anyway.

Damn, son! I couldn't have put that any better.
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Old 09-27-2022, 01:03 PM
 
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They were following a legal process thus legally, they were allowed to be here to go through the legal process.
Just not legally citizens.
They’re not following the legal process. Most of them know they will not qualify for Asylum and many do not even apply for it. They are taking advantage of the legal process because they know that they can get away with it now that we have less enforcement over our border policies, backlogged courts, and so many illegal crossings that we can’t keep record.
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Old 09-27-2022, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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The bottom line is one of the 2 political parties has offered me something positive that personally affects me to the point where as long as I'm working full time at a decent-paying job, I can start saving money next year to invest and/or buy property down the road instead of renting all my life.

And guess what? That party isn't the GOP.
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Old 09-27-2022, 02:58 PM
 
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Per the title question - fluff and nonsense, same as whatever the DNC platform is for 2022.

Vague platitudes, bromides, pablum and banal slogans.

It won't sway anyone who wasn't already voting for Republicans. Take yourself (LearnMe) for instance. Regardless of your posturing, you wouldn't vote Republican if a gun were put to your head. You play at some modicum of thoughtful centrism, but it's a bait and switch to troll people who actually do vote GOP. Even if the RNC rolled out a platform filled with specifics, minutia, detailed plans, stats and analysis, etc...you're not voting for them. You can try to convince us all you would consider it, but nobody on this forum would buy it for a second. And that's fine, because you are like 80-85% of the electorate who votes for one party or the other reflexively, no matter what they say, do, who they run, etc.

But anymore, it isn't about selling what you will do or have done well, it is about reminding voters of what your opponent does poorly, and then cashing in on those 10-15% of American voters who need to be contrary for the sake of it. Those folks are going to vote Republican this year because Dems are in power, and their standard vote, like your biannual "vote D" thing, is vote against whoever is in power for no other reason than to punish them for being in power. Platform doesn't have bupkus to do with it.
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