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The bottom line is one of the 2 political parties has offered me something positive that personally affects me to the point where as long as I'm working full time at a decent-paying job, I can start saving money next year to invest and/or buy property down the road instead of renting all my life.
Um, it also negatively impacts you (I know you are talking about the illegal student loan forgiveness), as it will cost each taxpayer several thousand dollars. Meaning, you did not actually get the benefit of $10,000 taken off your student loans... if it ever happens...
The bottom line is one of the 2 political parties has offered me something positive that personally affects me to the point where as long as I'm working full time at a decent-paying job, I can start saving money next year to invest and/or buy property down the road instead of renting all my life.
And guess what? That party isn't the GOP.
In a few years what you pay in taxes will make $10,000 look like fires and a soda in comparison. Think longer term. I don't know the answer there to be honest. Both parties are freaking terrible. Pick the least terrible long-term. I've mostly done Democrats although I'm pretty young. If you go back farther the Republicans were once upon a time the more fiscally responsible party. I'm not a fan of the direction they're headed but the whole Republican party has turned itself on its head over the last 6 years or so. Establishment is out, Trumpism was in... remains to be seen what is next. It might actually be decent. I'm really not sure how long American can continue flushing itself down the drain. Should be fun to watch though. Absolutely best thing I've ever seen Washington accomplish was bipartisan gridlock. At least they stopped making it worse when they didn't do anything.
Elitism has nothing to do with monetary status. Both Biden and Trump are very wealthy people.
Another example: Gavin Newsom has a net worth of $20 Million and Gregg Abbott has a net worth of about $23 Million .. .. Both are in the same monetary league... but I would categorize Gavin Newsom as a much bigger elitists than I would Gregg Abbott...
Elitism has to do with pushing your agenda or will over the lawful rights of taxpaying people for the sake of personal prosperity as well as progression of agenda. They believe that they are greater than anyone who opposes their ideals only because of what they believe, and their ideals typically go towards giving more (unrightful) power to 'Monetary Elites' who have no business in politics, and quite possibly do not even have citizenship in this country or best interest of its people.
It isn't about money. Its about control and power.
Elitism is when...
-- You allow hordes of homeless camps to setup all over the city the no regard of the ill-will they do to tax-paying citizens... regardless if they camp out infront of your home, business, bother your children .. while you profit off of the condemned properties and buy up multi-million dollar hotels as excuses to house the homeless .. while there's not a single camp infront of city hall or the mayors house.
-- You remove waiting restrictions for Asylum seekers knowing full well that most of the refugees do not qualify for Asylum, allow them to over run border towns and southern states, give them voting rights so they can overturn conservative governments... ...but quickly ship them off when only 50 of them show up in Martha's Vineyard.
-- You promote 'inequality' through racial preference of minorities, rather than racial 'equality' only because races have had a more difficult time in their uprising in this country (which I won't refute) so they should have less repercussions when they make bad financial choices or commit crimes over law abiding citizens.
-- Lessen the punishment of crimes, some times even felony level and allow them to run through the streets with no regard to law abiding people who pay taxes expecting government to protect them, who instead defunds, and removes police and tells you to take a hike if you have a legitimate problem with it.
-- Tell everyone to shelter in place despite the fact that most Covid-19 cases were occuring in high-density housing filled to the brim with minorities while you go eat a nice steak dinner, get your nails done, or fly to Cabo.
Elitism is a sense of self entitlement. It has nothing to do with how rich someone is.
Trump wasn't the brightest in the bunch, but he did have the best interest of the American people and that I have to respect him for. The leftist media heavily crucified him because they needed him out the way to push their socialist agenda.
I don't know about all this...
I'm reading a book right now that touches on some of this topic. Called "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy. There are some interesting insights about being in politics worth considering in my opinion.
I won't pore offer all your claims here, but clearly they are not as much truths as much as they are just opinion. From a somewhat conservative perspective. To your point about people who should be in politics (or not), Ronald Reagan once said he didn't want anyone working in his administration who wasn't willing to take a pay cut. To say anyone wanting to serve should not be in it for the money. Reagan had a net worth of $16 million.
Also, the largest homeless encampment we have here locally is built right next to our City Hall. Just saying...
Thanks for sharing your well laid out opinion in any case. Much better than the average mindless drab that more often riddles these threads. Sincerely, LM
Roe v Wade means nothing to me. I don’t care one way or the other, but I definitely don’t like my tax dollars being used to correct someone’s poor choices. Same reason I don’t like welfare or any other program. If you can’t take care of yourself, you shouldn’t exist.
I feel like Biden failed us all in Afghanistan.
I don’t like his energy policy.
I don’t like his Middle East policy.
I don’t like his immigration stance.
I don’t like his silence on the rise in crime.
I don’t like how he just let inflation rise and rise.
But most importantly, he isn’t a leader. He’s just an 80 year old who can read a teleprompter, and not all that well, if we are being honest.
The military is having recruiting problems right now, and it’s because of Biden’s lack of leadership. He’s an imbecile.
I'm in favor of many welfare programs mostly out of concern for the children. I used to work as a volunteer for the Food Bank or Feeding America (which is not a government financed welfare program), and doing so allowed me to see first hand how needy families with children can and should be helped. If nothing else to keep from being food deprived. If nothing else for the children.
Coincidentally and to the very same end, "President Joe Biden signed the Keep Kids Fed Act to extend important funding and flexibility for communities to provide children healthy meals this summer and provide support to schools and daycare providers to respond to supply chain challenges and high food costs for the coming school year."
No doubt out of the same sort of concern and needless to say, healthier kids makes them less likely to be tomorrow's problems too.
Do you know any people who can't take care of themselves (disabled, abused, mentally ill, diseased, too young, too old) who "shouldn't exist." Please.
Afghanistan didn't go well. Biden deserves at least some of that blame.
What's wrong with Biden's energy policy? At least he has one not all about perpetuating the use of fossil fuels.
When has any American been happy with U.S. Middle East policy? And how did Trump not make it worse?
What is Biden's immigration stance? Not all about building a big wall?
"Silence on the rise in crime?" Didn't he speak out against defunding the police?
The POTUS is cause or to blame for inflation? I'm guessing you don't have an economics degree.
Not a leader? Biden lead America from re-electing Trump and for lots and lots of Americans that was certainly leadership enough. Not an imbecile. Perhaps one of the most public-serving resumes we've had to consider in a long time. America can do better however. Not worse like Trump. Better. For sure.
They do not have an authorized legal entitlement to our country. Even the CBP estimates that only 5% of those apprehended at the border actually qualify for Asylum. We are denying them nothing regardless of where they come from or what their conditions are. So yes, they are committing a crime as they are not respecting our immigration laws. That is problem number one. Here is problem number two: You believe that someones circumstances should give them an entilement over law.. ..I'm sorry, but you're incorrect. How would you like it if vagrancy levels were to increase and Government released laws over home invasions only because those people without a home feel they should be entitled to your possesions only because you appear to be doing better than themselves? If you want to help them, by all means.. ..but should that be enforced on you if you did not?
That stated, I do not however believe that 'all' of them are coming here seeking ill-will... and I will agree with their economic effects on labor, but the process of how they are allowing so many of them to cross our borders without documentation is an asinine expectation. We are not expecting anything more from them than we expect from our own people who pay income tax and receive benefits thereof from those taxes. What the left is doing is prioritizing people who have no legal authorization to be here over national citizens.
You are right, about the last sentence.. ..they did 'not' give them any humanitarian aid. They shipped them off of to Cape Cod with the excuse that Cape Cod was more suited to help them despite them having more than enough resources to do similarly.
Trump and Conservatives are enforcing the nations laws.. ..that is not insensitive.. ..that is process
Biden and the Liberals are releasing laws and not upholding the rights of the American people whom pay taxes for government to support them.
I might add we maybe "look in the mirror" a little closer to better identify the causes and effects rather than demonize these people the way we prefer to do instead. Referring to them as "criminals and rapists" for example does nothing in the way of addressing or alleviating the problem and just aggravates the problem of bigotry and xenophobia in America. In classic "ugly American" style.
If one wants to call what I have been explaining all along "defending illegal immigrants," then they too are victim of that huge "blind spot" too many Americans can't seem to see past.
It's human nature to escape hardships whether they be danger or economic, especially for the sake of kids or family. Who among us would hesitate to escape a dismal life with no prospects and not migrate to where there was opportunity to live a life and maybe make a living? Who among us would care about borders or being legal or being arrested if we can go to a better place like America where Americans will pay us to do the work they want done?
Understand even half the truth of these matters and maybe America would finally get it's immigration and employment laws and policies in order. Meanwhile, ask yourself why Congress hasn't been able to accomplish anything close for decades now?
Also by the way, a big wall is no more the answer than a a leaky pail is the answer to a sinking boat...
I see these accusations of trolling all the time, but I can't quite understand when expressing opinion to counter opinion in this forum is trolling or just expressing counter opinion. No one can read through any of these threads in this forum and not agree or disagree with all the variety of comments posted throughout. Is following along and offering one's opinion not the way of this forum generally speaking? What justifies so many of these accusations of trolling? Always reads to me more like an intolerance of opinion not shared by those making those sorts of unfounded false claims.
They’re not following the legal process. Most of them know they will not qualify for Asylum and many do not even apply for it. They are taking advantage of the legal process because they know that they can get away with it now that we have less enforcement over our border policies, backlogged courts, and so many illegal crossings that we can’t keep record.
True to a point but then again drug dealing and drub use is illegal in America too. Gun violence as well...
Would you blame the drug dealers for the drug problem too? Or does simply claiming illegality accomplish anything? Stop what draws and problem solved. Stop paying illegal immigrants for working here and problem solved, but look to American companies and American citizens to stop using that labor? Oh HELL no!
We hire them to wash our dishes, mow our lawns, nanny our kids, build our roofs, work our construction, pick our fruits and vegetables while all the while we demonize them.
Per the title question - fluff and nonsense, same as whatever the DNC platform is for 2022.
Vague platitudes, bromides, pablum and banal slogans.
It won't sway anyone who wasn't already voting for Republicans. Take yourself (LearnMe) for instance. Regardless of your posturing, you wouldn't vote Republican if a gun were put to your head. You play at some modicum of thoughtful centrism, but it's a bait and switch to troll people who actually do vote GOP. Even if the RNC rolled out a platform filled with specifics, minutia, detailed plans, stats and analysis, etc...you're not voting for them. You can try to convince us all you would consider it, but nobody on this forum would buy it for a second. And that's fine, because you are like 80-85% of the electorate who votes for one party or the other reflexively, no matter what they say, do, who they run, etc.
But anymore, it isn't about selling what you will do or have done well, it is about reminding voters of what your opponent does poorly, and then cashing in on those 10-15% of American voters who need to be contrary for the sake of it. Those folks are going to vote Republican this year because Dems are in power, and their standard vote, like your biannual "vote D" thing, is vote against whoever is in power for no other reason than to punish them for being in power. Platform doesn't have bupkus to do with it.
Also not true...
Though I will always agree neither side is anywhere near my perfect version of what either party should be or should accomplish, and I know I'm a pretty typical American far as that sentiment goes, I'm not one fool enough to recognize the important differences that make for better or worse. Accordingly, I lean toward a more liberal way of things.
Not true, however, that I wouldn't vote Republican or have not. I voted for Reagan for example. That was then for the reasons I had then. I will admit I wouldn't vote Republican today, but not because I'm not Republican. I would not today, because the distance the GOP has gone from the more middle ground I can endorse, is further than I can remember ever having to consider. "Too far gone" as some might say...
PS: Why do you call the opinions I honestly and sincerely express here "posturing?" That's not right either.
In a few years what you pay in taxes will make $10,000 look like fires and a soda in comparison. Think longer term. I don't know the answer there to be honest. Both parties are freaking terrible. Pick the least terrible long-term. I've mostly done Democrats although I'm pretty young. If you go back farther the Republicans were once upon a time the more fiscally responsible party. I'm not a fan of the direction they're headed but the whole Republican party has turned itself on its head over the last 6 years or so. Establishment is out, Trumpism was in... remains to be seen what is next. It might actually be decent. I'm really not sure how long American can continue flushing itself down the drain. Should be fun to watch though. Absolutely best thing I've ever seen Washington accomplish was bipartisan gridlock. At least they stopped making it worse when they didn't do anything.
I hear you! Picking the "least terrible long-term" is unfortunately what we are called upon to do these days. Was it any different in the past? Reading the history of politics in America as much as I have suggests not by much...
I always cringe when I read Republicans have been more "fiscally responsible." The GOP has always been just as good at spending without limits as the Democrats. Just different priorities, weights and measures that have the one party pushing for spending on some things the other party doesn't value in the same way, but ultimately they are forever approving the spending bills that makes both sides happy.
Again this book I'm now reading, "Profiles in Courage" starts out by explaining how compromise is both good and bad, and no doubt a sure fire way to keep the spending going as always!
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