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Old 09-25-2022, 12:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by green_mariner View Post
No. I never said it was okay. My point was this: Follow the money.
That's where voting comes into play. Keep voting for these pro-illegal politicians and a party that won't enforce our immigration laws and protect our border and then you yourself are following the money. That makes you a part of the problem.
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Old 09-25-2022, 12:37 PM
 
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Not slavery in the least bit. No ONE was bought/sold/indentured.

They do it by choice. They aren't educated...we aren't getting doctors, lawyers, engineers swimming across the Rio Grande.

They do manual labor and get paid for it and then send a portion "back home" to provide financial support to their extended families.

Our government allows it so just get used to it.
Get used to it? Now that's the fighting American spirit......NOT!
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Old 09-25-2022, 12:38 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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No. I never said it was okay. My point was this: Follow the money.
Government + business


Government allows it so business can make use of cheap labor paid by cash under the table
Every so many often the government raids them. They pay their "kickback" to the government and go right back to what they are doing.

It's a relationship that works.

I lived in Texas and every few years the Sanderson chicken plant got raided.
Article never said what happened with the illegals but the owner paid a fine.
Within a week the plant was fully employed once again.

Nothing was shut down. No one went to jail.
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Old 09-25-2022, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Government + business
Government allows it so business can make use of cheap labor paid by cash under the table
Every so many often the government raids them. They pay their "kickback" to the government and go right back to what they are doing.

It's a relationship that works.

I lived in Texas and every few years the Sanderson chicken plant got raided.
Article never said what happened with the illegals but the owner paid a fine.
Within a week the plant was fully employed once again.

Nothing was shut down. No one went to jail.
That's exactly how it works. Meat/Poultry processors love to hire illegals because they don't complain or report violations of the law. Both are dangerous jobs resulting in a lot of amputations and serious injuries. If an illegal has an on the job injury the company immediately fires them and calls ICE. The H2A visa (for hiring non-citizens) for farm work is absolutely horrible and usually the brokers who hire all the workers are the only ones who benefit, the workers have to pay large sums to job brokers to get a job. Employers are burdened with everything from paying their transportation costs to and from their country of residence, having to 'guess' at what their harvest will be well in advance of signing a contract and then providing housing for the migrant workers.

My cousin has a farm in central California and she can't hire citizens, they refuse the job no matter what she offers, same with wineries, they are paying $22-$25 an hour for farm workers and can't keep them. The system should give workers a work visa for a year or two and allow them to apply for jobs directly. My guess is that they don't want to do this because they like the idea of the crooked off shore brokers managing the process.
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Old 09-25-2022, 01:05 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Get used to it? Now that's the fighting American spirit......NOT!
Go on..go fight the FedGov who ruled that using e-verify is a form of "citizenship discrimination".

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...ate-based-home
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Old 09-25-2022, 01:08 PM
 
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Here's a good place to start:

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44290.pdf

Remember, too, that illegal aliens file for refundable tax credits using stolen SS#s and the IRS does absolutely nothing about it. They don't even have to inform anyone that another person is illegally using their SS#.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/201...-report-taxes/

And as revealed by the IRS Commissioner in response to a question from Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind., at a Senate Finance Committee meeting:

IRS Admits It Encourages Illegals To Steal Social Security Numbers For Tax Filing Purposes
Obama did it, and got rich doing it.

Democrats look up to him and support him.
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Old 09-25-2022, 02:05 PM
 
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Go on..go fight the FedGov who ruled that using e-verify is a form of "citizenship discrimination".

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...ate-based-home
I will fight till my dying breath. E-verify wouldn't even be necessary if we secured our border and removed all of the other incentives for them to come here of which the Democrats will never go for, thus I look forward to another Republican president and congress that will hopefully do the right thing.

I didn't fight in Viet Nam to roll over and not fight for my country today to.

By the way, e-verify is mandated for all state and federal jobs so how could they use the excuse that it's discriminating to use it in the private sector?
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Old 09-25-2022, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I always wanted to know what a six-dollar tomato tastes like. Get rid of the immigrants, you will find out.
The meat packing plants have untold number of immigrants working there, and without them, $10 a pound for chicken and pork, and beef prices, God knows!
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Old 09-25-2022, 02:51 PM
Status: "Let this year be over..." (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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It's funny how the left finally insists on enforcing every possible law that might have been broken if it's by Trump. Anyone else gets a pass.

Trump J-Walked! Off with his head!!!
What's funny is when it is Trump the behavior is excused by the faithful but anyone else should be locked away for life. If I mishandled classified material during my military career the way he did I would be in jail. But I forget he said "Omni Domini" and it is declassified except it doesn't work that way...
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Old 09-25-2022, 02:51 PM
 
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Anything that the Republicans have tried to do the Democrats have blocked it.
When the Texas lege was 30 minutes away from passing e verify, it was not stopped by Democrats. It was the lobbyist for a builder who funded the Swift Boat ads and made the Republicans the major party they are in Texas. And a grocer who supports anybody he needs to. Gotta bring in that Mexican produce.
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