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Old 09-25-2022, 05:19 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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San Francisco Fire Fighter May be Disciplined for Wearing a "Let's Go Brandon" T-shirt
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https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/sffd-firefighter-in-hot-water-after-being-seen-in-lets-go-brandon-t-shirt/

You can wear all the BLM stuff you want. You could even be the leader of pAntifa... But if we spot you sporting "let's go Brandon" gear, that is crossing the line in San Fran...
It’s pretty simple (and hardly controversial) i.e. he was on duty (and not in a SFFD T-shirt). He clearly wanted attention; he got it. Why shouldn’t he be disciplined i.e. he can wear it on his own time.
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Old 09-25-2022, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Why bother responding if it is such an insignificant story?
Because I hate disinformation.
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Old 09-25-2022, 05:47 PM
 
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So to me -- this is part of the whole 'woke' nature that everyone rants about.

The guy was on duty, doesn't matter what his shirt said -- it wasn't his uniform.
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Old 09-25-2022, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Firemen shouldn't be wearing any sort of political clothing on the job, but should be able to wear what they want off the job.
If they are in a paid position (not volunteers putting in their own time) I agree. Same with ANY government employee-especially teachers whose apparel presents a political view to students. No BLM, no Pantia, no Biden/Harris shirts.

BTW, every single one of these teachers should be disciplined the same as the firefighter in question. https://abcnews.go.com/US/thousands-...ry?id=42938842

https://www.pdxteachers.org/blmwoa

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/...l-its-support/

You can add "pride" shirts or flags in the classrooms to that list. None has any place in a professional environment, especially one with children present.

Since we were talking about firefighters-I trust these will be treated the same way. https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...-portland.html
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Old 09-25-2022, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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If they are in a paid position (not volunteers putting in their own time) I agree. Same with ANY government employee-especially teachers whose apparel presents a political view to students. No BLM, no Pantia, no Biden/Harris shirts.

BTW, every single one of these teachers should be disciplined the same as the firefighter in question. https://abcnews.go.com/US/thousands-...ry?id=42938842

https://www.pdxteachers.org/blmwoa

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/...l-its-support/

You can add "pride" shirts or flags in the classrooms to that list. None has any place in a professional environment, especially one with children present.

Since we were talking about firefighters-I trust these will be treated the same way. https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...-portland.html

I'm on board with that. No Let's Go Brandon and no BLM and pAntifa stuff. I saw where a California teacher had Mao on the wall and a pAntifa flag hanging up in the classroom, and the school defended him until the pressure was too great and they had to let him go. Those kinds of teachers have no place in the classroom around young, impressionable minds. I think not being able to wear a LGB shirt at work is a small price to pay to uproot the commies from the classroom who are brainwashing children with their Marxist disease.
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Old 09-25-2022, 08:37 PM
 
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Firefighter here. Being Civil Service, I can't have a political sign in my yard, accept a card from a person running for office, and have to watch my actions.

I've voiced my opinion here, on the job and other places. Unfortunately, we don't have such thing as free speech. And I even voiced my opinion to the Civil Service Board. Their words? Basically, get over it.

This is in Louisiana. I'm not sure of Civil Service laws in other states.
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Old 09-26-2022, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Because of 1/6. Ongoing Trump supporters are considered unstable.
Depends on who's doing the considering.
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Old 09-26-2022, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Firefighter here. Being Civil Service, I can't have a political sign in my yard, accept a card from a person running for office, and have to watch my actions.

I've voiced my opinion here, on the job and other places. Unfortunately, we don't have such thing as free speech. And I even voiced my opinion to the Civil Service Board. Their words? Basically, get over it.

This is in Louisiana. I'm not sure of Civil Service laws in other states.

I worked for the federal government. We couldn't campaign for a candidate, or even run for a partisan office, due to the Hatch Act. I think we were allowed a bumper sticker though, but I'm not certain about that. I'd never deface my vehicle with a bumper sticker of any kind.

Too bad the Hatch Act doesn't also include the President and members of Congress.
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Old 09-26-2022, 05:59 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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why are they to be considered dangerous?

Because Brandon told them so in his big speech the other week.


The firefighter deserves a slap on the wrist for a uniform violation. Nothing more. I just hope these rules are enforced in an even handed manner.
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Old 09-26-2022, 06:31 AM
 
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yes, that’s what we are being told. but you actually believe it? why are trump
rallies so peaceful? why haven’t all those in attendance done anything? conservative talk show hosts who support trump and are friends with him denounce 1/6. the narrative doesn’t hold up to reality.
Incorrect.

Charlottesville.

During a campaign he instructed his minions to beat up journalist and he would pay their lawyer fees. They promptly followed his directive. Go look it up .

As for the attire.... Yeah. Free speech is not absolute. You want to wear a kkk outfit and say it don't mean nuffin. I call hogwash. Go ask anyone wearing a military uniform or combat garb. Most wear it to signify their position or rank.

So too with folks that wear disparaging phrases. I appreciate that singling themselves out. I'm much obliged to keep them off my Christmas list.
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