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Old 10-01-2022, 07:59 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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I wonder, does this legislation also protect polka song lyrics?

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California on Friday enacted a new law limiting prosecutors from using rap lyrics as evidence against criminal defendants.

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a series of bills, including AB 2799, which requires a pre-trial hearing to determine if hip-hop lyrics are relevant to a case. The bill was approved by state lawmakers in August.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...inal-cases.amp
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Old 10-01-2022, 08:03 AM
 
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What the heck prompted this new law? Isn't evidence by its existence evidence?
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Old 10-01-2022, 08:05 AM
 
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What the heck prompted this new law? Isn't evidence by its existence evidence?
Drill rap lyrics being used as evidence in court, because they plainly say what they did. It is evidence. California and Illinois are doing everything they can to protect criminals for votes. I don’t get it.
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Old 10-01-2022, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Pfft… rap music today is tame compared to the stuff we grew up on in the 90s.
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Old 10-01-2022, 08:45 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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I'll be expecting a lot of rap lyrics from the witness stand.
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Old 10-01-2022, 09:40 AM
 
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The legislation requires a pre-trial hearing to determine whether the rap lyrics are relevant. Prosecutors had been using rap lyrics to make defendants look bad, even when the lyrics had nothing to do with the case. That sounds reasonable to me. Irrelevant evidence that is used only to inflame the jury needs to be excluded. That's standard law.
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Old 10-01-2022, 10:19 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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The legislation requires a pre-trial hearing to determine whether the rap lyrics are relevant. Prosecutors had been using rap lyrics to make defendants look bad, even when the lyrics had nothing to do with the case. That sounds reasonable to me. Irrelevant evidence that is used only to inflame the jury needs to be excluded. That's standard law.
So should we also ban considering what you say on Facebook as well? Can it be used as a character reference upon conviction? Shouldn't people know you basically glorify murdering people if that's what you rap about or post online?
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Old 10-01-2022, 10:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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California Gov. Gavin Newsom signs bill restricting use of rap lyrics as evidence in criminal cases


Must be a slow day in the halls of Sacramento. Nothing better to do than make laws about fluff?
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Old 10-01-2022, 10:46 AM
 
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So should we also ban considering what you say on Facebook as well? Can it be used as a character reference upon conviction? Shouldn't people know you basically glorify murdering people if that's what you rap about or post online?
The evidence might be relevant in a sentencing hearing. What you say on Facebook that's not relevant to a specific case isn't admissible either, since it's not actual evidence of a crime.
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Old 10-01-2022, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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The rules of evidence should already keep rap lyrics out of court unless they are relevant - I don't get it. The article claims prosecutors regularly use the lyrics in court - are defense attorneys not challenging this? Are the judges ignoring the rules of evidence?
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