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Old 10-05-2022, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Gambling is everywhere.
But is that a good thing? Is that a bad thing? Does it matter? Why?
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Old 10-05-2022, 08:18 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Gambling is everywhere. You can buy lottery tickets probably just down the street from you. You can make sports bets legally sitting in you living room or on your phone. Actual casinos are more limited but not gambling.


Ads for smoking are not allowed to keep them away from children. Yet alcohol which is probably a worse vice that smoking is highly advertised. Gambling is advertised all over.



Seems to me if its taxed and regulated I have no problem with it. As long as the women are legal age and willingly doing that occupation its really no ones business what they are doing. And if its legal its easier to stop sex trafficking.
At least in NJ, Gambling is considered illegal if the wagers are not placed in a non-state-controlled system. The lottery here is state run if I recall.

My point is that legalization doesn't necessarily mean that there is no regulations in place. Alcohol is legal but you aren't allowed to sell it as a street vendor. I was responding to a post in which there was concern that legalization of prostitution would suddenly mean it is everywhere in marketing and street which doesn't have to be the case.
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Old 10-05-2022, 08:26 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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I have observed this in lots of cities. Areas where you find street walkers are usually commercial streets or really bad neighborhoods. If they are in front of your house, you are living in the hood. And you kids will see drugs being sold and people being robbed, etc. You will have to explain to your kids why you chose such a horrible place to live.
My observation is that reside in areas that are heavily under the control of gangs and criminal groups which overwhelming run street prostitution. The police are in a mode of containment so they tolerate the street prostitution (among other things) as long as they remain contained in that area. The biggest police concern in those areas is usually around illegal weapons.

In my area, there is a particular town that is known for it but it is off the streets behind fronts of businesses. The police absolutely are knowledgeable (and they are also customers). There is kinda an unwritten agreement that the police will only act if there is a complaint. So it is in the best interest of those businesses to keep things hush hush and quiet; keep it out of sight of the residences of that community. These businesses are some of the biggest donors to the local police department as well. Short of sending the police, the city is known to leverage fire marshal and health inspectors to harass businesses that don't stay in line.
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Old 10-05-2022, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Mexico does that also. I know there is boys town in Laredo, MX.
And Tijuana. Zona Norte district for female prostitutes, Plaza Santa Cecilia for the male prostitutes.
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Old 10-05-2022, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Nice, France
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I wish people would stop repeating this falsehood. The world's oldest profession is the shaman/priest/priestess. Humans had a spiritual leader to connect to God, bury the dead, bless warriors and hunters, pray for good weather, etc. long before we had an economic (and sexual) system that necessitated selling one's body.
I think you're wrong there. It might be because you see it in a modern sense (as in money exchanged for sex).

It's more a barter system, sex for food or shelter or (much later) warmth of fire, or,basically,protection, etc.
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Old 10-05-2022, 02:09 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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California should take a cue from the sex capital of the world, Bangkok, and create a Pat Pong district, with an area for male prostitutes and an area for female prostitutes, and sex tourists will flock there, increasing tourism.
We can't even get the nimbys to let them build desalination plants. I doubt they'll take kindly to something like that. Although, a drive to some remote part of the state might not be unpleasant considering what's waiting for them when they reach their destination.
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Old 10-05-2022, 02:24 PM
 
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California will then turn around and tax and regulate it so stupidly the whole business goes underground again.
Exactly. Just like the weed thing.
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Old 10-05-2022, 04:03 PM
 
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But is that a good thing? Is that a bad thing? Does it matter? Why?

Look with gambling someone can get wiped out fanatically if they have a bad addiction. Not really the case with prostitution. So gambling might be a worse addiction.



I think people should be able to choose whatever they want to do with their time and money. Even if they make horrible choices. The nanny state should not be there protecting people from themselves. As long as they are not harming someone else and everyone is of legal age.
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Old 10-05-2022, 04:09 PM
 
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At least in NJ, Gambling is considered illegal if the wagers are not placed in a non-state-controlled system. The lottery here is state run if I recall.

My point is that legalization doesn't necessarily mean that there is no regulations in place. Alcohol is legal but you aren't allowed to sell it as a street vendor. I was responding to a post in which there was concern that legalization of prostitution would suddenly mean it is everywhere in marketing and street which doesn't have to be the case.
I get that. And in California prostitution is not suddenly legal. Police can't arrest street walkers for loitering on the streets. I assume they can still be arrested for soliciting prostitution.

And regarding New Jersey. You can use apps like fanduel.
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Old 10-05-2022, 04:12 PM
 
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And Tijuana. Zona Norte district for female prostitutes, Plaza Santa Cecilia for the male prostitutes.
I believe that is common all over Mexico. My 2nd wife was a very traditional Mexican woman who spend her first 30 years in Mexico. And to her it was wrong for a woman to go to a bar. Since a lot of the bars are set up for male customers and prostitutes. Even in the states here she refused to ever go to a bar.

They way they do it down there is smart. I did read that the past few years the roads that lead into boys town in Nuevo Laredo has a lot of bandits that rob American customers going into there.
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