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They never have a response regarding any of that stuff. The truth is that deep down inside, a lot of open borders proponents believe that the undocumented should be able to have their cake and eat it too. "Victims" to lavish their liberal largesse to. Money just grows on trees. Scarcity isn't a thing to them. The QoL of Americans impacted by them isn't a concern to them. I actually don't blame migrants/undocumented folks for trying to come here/coming here. I do blame the government for allowing our border and entry/stay controls to be a farce. Our asylum laws need revisiting too. If they consider Mexico too unsafe to be seeking asylum there then they don't have a credible claim of seeking it at all due to safety.
Nah. The reason the OP is not getting responses to the original question is because he started the thread with an insult.
Nobody is going to say... yes I am a "Woke Democrat" and here is my answer.
See, you kinda prove my point. No one (here) knows the optimum amount of immigrants and yet they argue and moan over them incessantly regardless of whether we truly need more or fewer of of them. It seems pointless when no one is working with relevant facts.
The OP was referring to illegal immigrants. I don't think anyone, Democrat or Republican, thinks illegal immigration is a good thing. We disagree on how strenuously to enforce the border and what the right balance is between compassion and law enforcement. Like do we give people a chance to apply for asylum or not? Do we deport people who were brought here as children through no fault of their own? These are questions that can be debated.
As for the right number of immigrants, that's a completely different question. Pre-supposing that they are all legal immigrants, there are those who would like to shut off most immigration, and those (myself included) who believe a steady influx of immigrants is crucial to keeping America great.
I think perhaps the right number would be the number that allows our population to remain near current levels, and maintains the average age of our population at or younger than currently, and allows for filling of unfilled job vacancies. We don't want a shrinking population, an aging population or a labor shortage.
Maybe re-read what I wrote. Where did I say that the anti-illegal crowd shouldn't feel better about themselves? Good luck finding it because I am pretty sure what I wrote was that using the term "open border" (when there is in fact, no open border), is a term used to make them feel better about themselves.
There is a difference. Try to understand it.
And oh my God, the wall again. We get it. Biden sucks. If the wall were up all our problems would be solved. I know, I know.
90%. I mean, no man, woman or child ever figured out how to go under, around or above a wall so I'm sure if the wall was up that 90% would definitely hold true. Let's make it 95% - that's a fact!
LOL. There is an "open border" no matter how hard you try to spin it. If the border wasn't open, all these "so-called migrants" would have been turned away at entry points.
As far as the wall, the San Diego sector that's been built has brought it down to a trickle because they can't just walk across.
What we have now is a trojan horse where we let them in and then the disperse never to be seen again.
^^^^Well said!
Plus one needs to remind all the leftists as to whom it was who got that wall built. It was Bill Clinton. In fact, I voted twice for Bubba due to his stance on illegals. That was then. This is now. I didn't leave the democrats, the democrats left me.
What is a "woke" Democrat? How do they differ from a "woke" Republican?
LOL! There are no "woke republicans". The term "woke republican" is an oxymoron. Anyone who calls themselves a "republican" but has gone "woke" is a RINO and needs to switch parties.
The majority of the republicans are not "woke". Instead, they are "awake" --- big difference1
Manifest destiny can be used by everyone. Welcome to freedom for all, not just white people.
What are you yammering about? It has been used by everyone. Not just white people.
Are you a reconquista and are pushing for that? If not, then what is your dog in this fight anyway?
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Even the "Natives" came here from Asia. Did you think they just sprouted up from the ground?