At least 5 shot in North Carolina (leader, claim, San Francisco, Florida)
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Criminals cannot steal (and use) weapons obtained in home burglaries that are not there due to being banned.
And people CANNOT defend themselves with a gun if they legally CANNOT get one!
I am always amazed how so many of our anti gun friends NEVER talk about the victims or those that uses a gun to protect themselves and families with guns.
And people CANNOT defend themselves with a gun if they legally CANNOT get one!
That's why some gun lock laws make no sense. You can't remove a lock in an emergency.
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough
I am always amazed how so many of our anti gun friends NEVER talk about the victims or those that uses a gun to protect themselves and families with guns.
More people shoot friend or relatives (or the upstairs tenant) than defend themselves from lawbreakers with guns. The gun lobby oversells the home protection issue.
In NC this week, an upstairs tenant was killed by a gun fired in a downstairs domestic dispute. In Chicago two years ago, a cop shot an on-looker in the head who was peeping out a door to see the hubbub and the bullet missed the intended target. I have a friend in VA who found a round in her clothes hamper after the person in the next townhouse was cleaning his pistol!
In the McDonald case SCOTUS never seemed to consider that he could have bought a coach gun instead of a pistol and such gun would not kill someone across the street.
That's why some gun lock laws make no sense. You can't remove a lock in an emergency.
More people shoot friend or relatives (or the upstairs tenant) than defend themselves from lawbreakers with guns. The gun lobby oversells the home protection issue.
In NC this week, an upstairs tenant was killed by a gun fired in a downstairs domestic dispute. In Chicago two years ago, a cop shot an on-looker in the head who was peeping out a door to see the hubbub and the bullet missed the intended target. I have a friend in VA who found a round in her clothes hamper after the person in the next townhouse was cleaning his pistol!
In the McDonald case SCOTUS never seemed to consider that he could have bought a coach gun instead of a pistol and such gun would not kill someone across the street.
If it saves just one life....
According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, there were around 480,000 criminal uses of guns in 2019. Although this number might seem significant when viewed in isolation, existing research has consistently shown that the number of annual defensive gun uses vastly exceeds criminal uses.
That's why some gun lock laws make no sense. You can't remove a lock in an emergency.
More people shoot friend or relatives (or the upstairs tenant) than defend themselves from lawbreakers with guns. The gun lobby oversells the home protection issue.
In NC this week, an upstairs tenant was killed by a gun fired in a downstairs domestic dispute. In Chicago two years ago, a cop shot an on-looker in the head who was peeping out a door to see the hubbub and the bullet missed the intended target. I have a friend in VA who found a round in her clothes hamper after the person in the next townhouse was cleaning his pistol!
In the McDonald case SCOTUS never seemed to consider that he could have bought a coach gun instead of a pistol and such gun would not kill someone across the street.
Guns are great deterrents. If you were a criminal would you rather break into a house in a gun free zone or would you rather break into a house where a homeowner could shoot you?
Would you rather loot in an area that is soft on crime and big on gun control or would you rather loot in an area where the shop owners all have guns and know how to use them?
Would you rather be a sitting duck at the mercy of a psychopath or would you prefer to have the ability to defend yourself?
Guns are great deterrents. If you were a criminal would you rather break into a house in a gun free zone or would you rather break into a house where a homeowner could shoot you?
Would you rather loot in an area that is soft on crime and big on gun control or would you rather loot in an area where the shop owners all have guns and know how to use them?
Would a criminal be able to determine all this in advance? I doubt it. I can think of one house in my area where I'm sure there are no guns and it is known to be such. It has never been burglarized -- nuns live there!
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Originally Posted by springfieldva
Would you rather be a sitting duck at the mercy of a psychopath or would you prefer to have the ability to defend yourself?
The fallacy here is that guns are the be all and end all of self-defense. Sometimes dogs can work wonders -- they are a great deterrent to keep folks out of your house.
As a hunter I can imagine just what it means to shoot a human being inside your home. You want to avoid that.
Would a criminal be able to determine all this in advance? I doubt it.
You don't think burglars will case a house or have knowledge about who or what's inside at times? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Originally Posted by Manigault
I can think of one house in my area where I'm sure there are no guns and it is known to be such. It has never been burglarized -- nuns live there!
lol That you think one data point is meaningful explains a lot.
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Originally Posted by Manigault
The fallacy here is that guns are the be all and end all of self-defense. Sometimes dogs can work wonders -- they are a great deterrent to keep folks out of your house.
No, that's something that you made up.
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Originally Posted by Manigault
As a hunter I can imagine just what it means to shoot a human being inside your home. You want to avoid that.
It's about defending life and property and not about fewlings.
Would a criminal be able to determine all this in advance? I doubt it. I can think of one house in my area where I'm sure there are no guns and it is known to be such. It has never been burglarized -- nuns live there!
The fallacy here is that guns are the be all and end all of self-defense. Sometimes dogs can work wonders -- they are a great deterrent to keep folks out of your house.
As a hunter I can imagine just what it means to shoot a human being inside your home. You want to avoid that.
The beauty of the 2nd amendment honoring states is that the criminals have no clue which house has the gun toting homeowner and which house does not.
I am a dog person big time. My dogs would be considered banned breeds in some areas. But they are awesome, well socialized dogs who would never harm a flea unless they/their family were threatened. I had a sweet Golden who ferociously growled and chased off a dude who "mistook" my house for a friend's house. Shocked the heck out of me but her canine instincts and love for her family kicked in.
That's why some gun lock laws make no sense. You can't remove a lock in an emergency.
More people shoot friend or relatives (or the upstairs tenant) than defend themselves from lawbreakers with guns. The gun lobby oversells the home protection issue.
In NC this week, an upstairs tenant was killed by a gun fired in a downstairs domestic dispute. In Chicago two years ago, a cop shot an on-looker in the head who was peeping out a door to see the hubbub and the bullet missed the intended target. I have a friend in VA who found a round in her clothes hamper after the person in the next townhouse was cleaning his pistol!
In the McDonald case SCOTUS never seemed to consider that he could have bought a coach gun instead of a pistol and such gun would not kill someone across the street.
"That's why some gun lock laws make no sense. You can't remove a lock in an emergency."
Especially late at night and you are awaken by hearing a bad guy breaking in.
"More people shoot friend or relatives (or the upstairs tenant) than defend themselves from lawbreakers with guns."
Can you back this claim up?
"The CDC lists accidental shooting deaths at somewhere around 400 a year, total. True accidental shootings that do not end in death (i.e. no suspicion of criminal activity) are so rare they do not make the cutoff for statistical significance in the CDC’s varied injury reports"
Last edited by Quick Enough; 10-22-2022 at 06:17 AM..
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