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An Arizona Democrat has been sentenced to 30 days in jail because of her involvement in a local ballot harvesting scheme during a 2020 municipal election.
Guillermina Fuentes, a 66-year-old school board member and former mayor of the border town of San Luis, was ordered Thursday to turn herself in to the Yuma County Jail, according to the office of Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich. She was also placed on two years of probation.
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Investigators reported at that time that she was using her position in the San Luis community to persuade local voters to let her or her acquaintances deposit their ballots.
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“In the video, it is clear that the ballot envelope was unsealed,” it continued. “Fuentes was observed to pick up a pen or pencil and write on the ballot envelope. She then pulls the ballot out of the envelope and makes three marks consistent with the filling in of spaces on a ballot to make a candidate selection. Fuentes put the ballot back in the envelope and sealed it. She then retrieved several more ballot envelopes from a folder on the table and handed them to Juarez. Juarez then walks toward the polling location.”
This threatens "democracy" IMO... only 30 days in jail and probation.
If it happened here with some school board member in Nowhere, USA - it happened everywhere.
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This threatens "democracy" IMO... only 30 days in jail and probation.
If it happened here with some school board member in Nowhere, USA - it happened everywhere.
1. Ballot harvesting is a boogieman term. It simply means to collect ballots and turn them in .
2. it is legal to turn ballots in to an individual other than the elections board , or polling place in 25 states. Arizona was one of those states until 2016.
yalls weird anger about this issue stems 100% from the fact that Dems are just better at organizing than yall are.
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Glad to hear it, but how many Dem harvesters have not gotten caught?
Your quote doesn’t say how many ballots she was able to harvest.
Collecting filled out ballots is specifically legal for anyone to turn in another's ballot in 25 states, another 13 dont specify , and 11 give a specific person you need to give them to. and only 1 makes it illegal for anyone other than the voter to turn it in. again, someone made up the boogieman term of "harvesting" and yall have ran with it. Its technically legal in 49 of 50 states.
Glad to hear it, but how many Dem harvesters have not gotten caught?
Your quote doesn’t say how many ballots she was able to harvest.
At least one... which is enough to be illegal. The report says several...
The report also says this...
I traveled to San Luis with Sgt. Hemstreet and Detective Jesser, a Spanish speaker. We contacted and interviewed the Justice of the Peace in Precinct 2, Juan Guerrero. Guerrero stated he believed a group of influential subjects, including Fuentes, is exchanging money for the ballots of community members.
Sgt. Hemstreet informed me that Fuentes had made an earlier complaint to election officials regarding a group called "Chispas". We contacted Fuentes regarding this complaint with the ultimate goal of obtaining information useful to the investigation. While answering a question asked by Hemstreet, Fuentes appeared to make an unintentional slip and commented on "buying ballots". I clarified with Fuentes that she had used those words to which she responded by laughing and stating that is what people accuse her of doing.
An Arizona Democrat has been sentenced to 30 days in jail because of her involvement in a local ballot harvesting scheme during a 2020 municipal election.
Guillermina Fuentes, a 66-year-old school board member and former mayor of the border town of San Luis, was ordered Thursday to turn herself in to the Yuma County Jail, according to the office of Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich. She was also placed on two years of probation.
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Investigators reported at that time that she was using her position in the San Luis community to persuade local voters to let her or her acquaintances deposit their ballots.
...
“In the video, it is clear that the ballot envelope was unsealed,” it continued. “Fuentes was observed to pick up a pen or pencil and write on the ballot envelope. She then pulls the ballot out of the envelope and makes three marks consistent with the filling in of spaces on a ballot to make a candidate selection. Fuentes put the ballot back in the envelope and sealed it. She then retrieved several more ballot envelopes from a folder on the table and handed them to Juarez. Juarez then walks toward the polling location.”
This threatens "democracy" IMO... only 30 days in jail and probation.
If it happened here with some school board member in Nowhere, USA - it happened everywhere.
~8 ballots in a primary election.
I'm glad she was caught. I'm glad she was punished.
1. Ballot harvesting is a boogieman term. It simply means to collect ballots and turn them in .
2. it is legal to turn ballots in to an individual other than the elections board , or polling place in 25 states. Arizona was one of those states until 2016.
yalls weird anger about this issue stems 100% from the fact that Dems are just better at organizing than yall are.
OK... what should we call what she did? She's not going to jail for legal activities.
I'm not angry... just shining some sunlight. Yes Democrats are better at what you call organizing and doing politics. They are not better at managing the country.
This November is going to be interesting. Republicans continue to downplay the effect ballot harvesting is going to have on the elections and I'm curious to see how things turn out.
Democrats are better at organizing and it's much easier to harvest votes in heavily blue cities than it is to go out to rural areas and drive around hundreds of miles to collect Republican votes from homes. The only way to remedy this is for Republicans to get off their butts and go vote without somebody coming to their house to collect the vote from them. If this doesn't happen they only have themselves to blame for allowing all this. They can scream vote fraud but it doesn't do any good since they sat on their hands and did nothing to stop it.
We were able to vote in South Dakota starting on September 23rd and we have a whole six weeks to go vote surely enough voters can find time in a 6-week time period to go to the local city office? I realize other states have more backward systems where you can only vote one day which they call voting day. Voter turnout matters. If Republican voter turnout is 50% and Democrat voter turnout is 65% due to harvesting then who do you think's going to win?
There's a vested interest in maintaining gridlock in the system. Having one party rule would end up being disastrous.
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