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Old 10-16-2022, 04:56 PM
 
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If you were interested in trying to figure out how we got here.

The Plan

This is important to understanding what is going on now and why it matters. I’m attempting to connect some dots and make a case for what I believe is going on but that requires some backstory to be able to follow along and even then it is still not an easy follow.

Now for the really interesting part to me.

In 1972 a book called Limits to Growth was published for the Club of Rome’s “Predicament of Mankind” Project.

Quote:
“Phase One of the Project on the Predicament of Mankind took definite shape at meetings held in the summer of 1970 in Bern, Switzerland, and Cambridge, Massachusetts. At a two week conference in Cambridge, Professor Jay Forrester of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) presented a global model that permitted clear identification of many specific components of the problematique and suggested a technique for analyzing the behavior and relationships of the most important of those components. This presentation led to initiation of Phase One at MIT, where the pioneering work of Professor Forrester and others in the field of System Dynamics had created a body of expertise uniquely suited to the research demands.

The Phase One study was conducted by an international team, under the direction of Professor Dennis Meadows, with financial support from the Volkswagen Foundation. The team examined the five basic factors that determine, and there-fore, ultimately limit, growth on this planet--population, agricultural production, natural resources, industrial production, and pollution.
http://www.donellameadows.org/wp-con...an-version.pdf

The book came to this conclusion:

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1. If the present growth trends in world population, industrialization, pollution, food production, and resource depletion continue unchanged, the limits to growth on this planet will be reached sometime within the next one hundred years. The most probable result will be a rather sudden and uncontrollable decline in both population and industrial capacity.
2. It is possible to alter these growth trends and to establish a condition of ecological and economic stability that is sustainable far into the future. The state of global equilibrium could be designed so that the basic material needs of each person on earth are satisfied and each person has an equal opportunity to realize his individual human potential.
If the world's people decide to strive for this second outcome rather than the first, the sooner they begin working to attain it, the greater will be their chances of success.
All five elements basic to the study reported here--population, food production, and consumption of nonrenewable natural resources--are increasing. The amount of their increase each year follows a pattern that mathematicians call exponential growth.
https://web.ics.purdue.edu/~wggray/T...-to-Growth.pdf

That kind of sounds like ”from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” That’s strange. Oh well…

In 1973 Aurelio Peccei, the first President of the Club of Rome, gave a speech at the forerunner to the World Economic Forum. They called the meeting this year The Davos Manifesto.

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Two developments distinguished this Davos meeting. First, Aurelio Peccei, the Italian industrialist, delivered a speech summarizing The Limits to Growth, a book that had been commissioned by the Club of Rome, the global think tank that he founded and served as
its first president. The study had caused a sensation after its pub- lication in 1972 for calling into question the sustainability of global economic growth. Reiterating some of the same concerns about demographics that the 18th-century scholar Thomas Malthus had expressed, the authors examined several scenarios for the global economy and outlined the choices that society had to make to reconcile economic development and environmental constraints. The landmark publication was eventually translated into some 30 languages and sold more than 12 million copies.
https://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_A_...ng_History.pdf

You might remember the Nixon administration making lots of changes that they called “East-West Realignment” where the dropped Breton Woods, Nixon met with Mao to try and normalize relations, price control, etc. The meeting with Mao was important, this was the same year that LtG was published. During that meeting Mao asked Kissinger if he had anything to say. Below is his response:

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Mr. Chairman, the world situation has also changed dramatically during that period. We’ve had to learn a great deal. We thought all socialist/communist states were the same phenomenon. We didn’t understand until the President came into office the different nature of revolution in China and the way revolution had developed in other socialist states.
https://china.usc.edu/mao-zedong-mee...bruary-21-1972

They may not seem all that important unless you know to what he is referring to. He is referring to wide scale national campaign at human thought reform, and Mao was successful. A famous psychiatrist wrote extensively on it, his name is Robert Jay Lifton. His book was titled “Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism.” In the book Lifton writes about interviewing fleeing victims of Mao’s thought reform program. He came up with eight theme of totalitarianism that one could use to recognize a thought reform program. Milieu Control (censorship), Mystical Manipulation (Vanguard Movements), Loaded Language (BLM, White Supremacy, etc. - “thought terminating cliches), “Sacred” Science (closed system of logic that cannot be questioned), Cult of Confession (the desire to confess to crimes one has not committed due to guilt, shame and peer pressure), Demand for Purity (anti-racism, Antifa, etc., anything that requires a never ending struggle that can be used infinitely to perpetuate the closed system of logic), Doctrine Over Person (the doctrine is always right, it is the person that is flawed), and Dispensing of Existence (Cancel Culture).

That was all important so you can understand what comes next.

In 1980’s the UN published a report called “ Report of the World Commission on Environment and Development: Our Common Future” by Gro Harlem Brundtland. This was referred to as the Brundtland Commission of Brundtland Report. Below are the important parts because the make a call for a change to morals and priorities and you will understand why later.

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Some unique objects like Lake Baikal and Siberia, the Great Lakes in Africa and North America, are part of our global patrimony. They are some of the absolute values our planet possesses and their significance transcends any national boundaries. We should learn how to foresee their future and how to anticipate the after-effects of large-scale engineering projects.

Since people's interests vary, it cannot be taken for granted that people will accept scholars' recommendations and come to agreement on that score. And their agreement is of special importance in situations where global problems are involved and where the human race as a whole may be threatened with perils generated by the absence of such agreement.

What is needed today is the moulding of a new ethos and new arrangements for building an understanding among people, countries, and regions. And as a first step we should produce new knowledge, concentrate our research efforts on maintaining life on earth, and develop a system distributing and disseminating knowledge and new moral criteria in a way that makes it available to billions of people who inhabit our planet.
Academician N.N. Moiseev USSR Academy of Sciences WCED Public Hearing Moscow, 8 Dec 1986
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To successfully advance in solving global problems, we need to develop new methods of thinking, to elaborate new moral and value criteria, and, no doubt, new patterns of behaviour.

Mankind is on the threshold of a new stage in its development. We should not only promote the expansion of its material, scientific, and technical basis, but, what is most important, the formation of new value and humanistic aspirations in human psychology, since wisdom and humaneness are the 'eternal truths' that make the basis of humanity. We need new social, moral, scientific, and ecological concepts, which should be determined by new conditions for the life of mankind today and in the future.
I.T. Frolov
Editor-in-Chief, Communist Magazine WCED Public Hearing
Moscow, 6 Dec 1986
http://www.un-documents.net/our-common-future.pdf

Fast forward to 9/11/2001. Everyone knows what happened in NY at the Twin Towers. In the aftermath of that tragedy the UN made a call for “Global Agenda for Dialogue Among Civilizations,” this is where DEI was born.

https://undocs.org/en/A/RES/56/6

This is where the Collegium International was created. The Collegium International is important because they created this doctrine for world governance. They created DEI (corporations), ESG (finance), SEL (education), Coercive Persuasion (.mil), no idea what the program for church is. The point was to synchronize society, to “give it a rudder.” So who were/are the members of this Collegium? Well for it’s first major announcement in 2003 with the Declaration of Interdependence, these people signed it:

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Brussels, 2 April 2003
For the International Collegium::
ARIAS SANCHEZ Oscar, Nobel Prize for Peace, former President of Costa Rica
BARBER Benjamin,Professor, Political Analyst, USA
CARDOSO Fernando Henrique, former President of Brazil DREIFUSSRuth,FormerPresidentoftheSwiss Confederation
FRASER Malcolm, former Prime Minister, Australia
HABERMAS Jiirgen, Philosopher, Germany
KONARE Alpha Oumar, former President of Mali
SCHMIDT Helmut, Former Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany
KUCAN Milan, former President of Slovenia
MORIN Edgar, Philosopher, France
OGATA Sadako,/bmzer High Commissioner for H.C.R., Japan
ROBINSON Mary, President of Ethical Global Initiative, former President of Ireland
ROCARD Michel, Chairman, Commissionfor Cultural Affairs, European Parliament, former Prime Minister of France
SEN Amartya, Economist, Nobel Prize, India
STIGLITZ Joseph, Economist, Nobel Prize, USA
Prince HASSAN BIN TALLAL, Jordan
VON WEIZSACKER, Richard, former President of the Federal Republic of Germany ATLAN Henri, Bio-physicist and philosopher, France
DELMAS-MARTY Mireille, University Law Professor, France;
HESSEL Stephane, Ambassador of France
OULDABDALLAH Ahmedou, former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mauritania
SACHS Wolfgang, Economist, Chairman of Greenpeace, Germany
VANDEN HEUVEL William, Ambassador, Chairman, Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt Institute, USA
HABIBIE Bacharuddin Jusuf, Former President of Indonesia
LIFTON Robert J., Professor, Cambridge University, Massachusetts, USA
https://search.archives.un.org/uploa...6-01-00008.pdf

You might notice a few names and recognize them, maybe not. Important for this long drawn out post are Benjamin Barber (Interdependence), Jurgen Habermas (Critical Theory/Continental Theory/neo or post Marxism), Milan Kucan, Edgar Morin, Joseph Stiglitz, Stephen Hessel, Michel Rocard and Robert Jay Lifton. I’m sure the other were/are (some have passed away) important in their own ways. Barber and Stiglitz were advisors to Bill Clinton. Lifton I talked about earlier. Habermas has worked his whole life in Critical Theory.

Touching back on that Brundtland Commission Report, I kid you not, the Collegium has an archived article called “Michel Rocard or the Ethical Conspiracy.”

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The Expansion.. November 2002. By Guy Mettan

Guy Mettan, Executive Director of the Swiss Press Club. Article published in the Expansion in November 2002.

At 72, the former French Prime Minister has lost none of his bagout and militant passion. He continues his mandate as an MEP. But above all, alongside Slovenian President Milan Kucan, he led the fight for good global governance. Objective: to create an International Ethical, Political and Scientific College to find solutions to the three major challenges facing humanity today.



"In a global ethical project, we must be wary of definitions that are too simple and that only benefit those who established them, we must change the vocabulary, discard narrow morality. And tackle the big fish." This is the deep meaning of what has now been agreed on sustainable development. This concept, established by the Brundtland Commission on the initiative of former United Nations Secretary-General Perez de Cuellar, took twenty years to impose itself in vocabulary. Michel Rocard and his friends intend to implement it quickly.
(It’s in French but can be translated in your browser most likely)

https://web.archive.org/web/20210518...t-ethique.html

When you go to the CI’s website they list connections important to their work:

Club of Madrid
Club of Rome
Nuclear Threat Initiative
Earth Policy Institute
InterAction Counsel
Open Society Institute
Anna Lindh Foundation

Obviously Club of Rome stands out because of the previously mentioned “Limits to Growth.”

So it turns out the “Limits to Growth” was updated on 11/3/2020 - US General Election voting day to elect POTUS - by a person named Gays Herrington.

https://advisory.kpmg.us/content/dam...ublication.pdf

In that publication the author goes into the history of LtG, updates throughout the years, the calculations used, etc, but one of the more interesting things is the graph that has the five pillars talked about at the beginning of this post and for the “SW” model (Sustainable World) it list “population stabilized” and a “change in values and priorities.”

I wrote all that so I could talk about the thought reform program that is radicalizing students to become compassionate rainbow colored apocalyptic death cult members. They are sterilizing kids, poison is flowing over the border, they’re trying to instill alienation in the whole of society by distancing people socially, culturally, morally and mechanically.

Quote:
These four are cultural distance, moral distance, social distance, and mechanical distance. These four kinds deal mainly with the emotional involvement and identification with the victim. Emotional withdrawal seems to be the core in each of these cases. According to Erich Fromm, there is a clear link between this withdrawal and the prevention of destructive aggression: “There is good clinical evidence for the assumption that destructive aggression occurs, at least to a large degree, in conjunction with a momentary or chronic emotional withdrawal.”61

This process of labeling and evaluation is decisive in the first kind of emotional distance, namely cultural distance.62 Creating cultural distance is an often-used tactic when conditioning and systematically desensitizing future genocidal perpetrators, usually by means of incendiary media like radio and/or film. The enemy is presented as an inferior form of life, who is a threat to the group that needs protecting. Examples of this tactic are the incendiary radio programs of the Rwandan radio station Radio Milles Collines which, during the genocide, incited the population to exterminate the Tutsi cockroaches as well as the ‘documentary’ entitled Der ewige Jude construed by the Nazis. All genocides know descriptions where, after a process of otherization, the victim group is dehumanized. This feeds one of our motivations, namely creating and maintaining a positive image of ourselves. If the other party is disease-spreading vermin, then I am not.
https://library.oapen.org/bitstream/...=1&isAllowed=y

I understand, it’s hard to believe that this is an actual program being forced on the general population. Deindustrialization, Depopulation, Reduced Food Production, Lowering Pollution and Limiting Resource Extraction.

Quote:
Transformation is the red thread running through all the Sustainable Development Goals, the United Nations' agenda for responding to global challenges facing humanity and the planet.



In 1964, inspiring the 1968-student revolt a couple of years later, Herbert Marcuse wrote a key text against "one dimensional man", urging universities and campuses around the world to become places that resisted reductionism. He urged for a thinking that would show us alternatives beyond the universalizing forces of current rationalism. Universities, especially through higher education, could pave the way for human development independently of industrialized society. Giving attention to that which is not captured in the universals of one-dimensional-man, formed to serve the productive, consuming society, he created visions for alternatives. Above all, his call was to the universities and to the students in particular, as they occupy those key position outside of productive society; still on the outside but geared towards the processes of its reproduction.
https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000380519
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Old 10-16-2022, 05:38 PM
 
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I read only a very small portion of your post. I'm saving the rest of it to read at about 11 PM tonight. That way, I won't have to take a sleeping pill. I'll be asleep before I get to the end of it.
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Old 10-16-2022, 05:50 PM
 
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I read only a very small portion of your post. I'm saving the rest of it to read at about 11 PM tonight. That way, I won't have to take a sleeping pill. I'll be asleep before I get to the end of it.
The very last sentence in all of it is probably the most important one. The last word the most important word. Good reading.
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Posts of this length are too long to read.
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:24 PM
 
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The average American has the attention span of a gnat. Scary stuff, OP. Thanks for posting.
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:25 PM
 
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Does anyone else remember all those dystopian sci fi movies from the late 60's and early 70's? Some of us took it as entertainment. Democrats took it as a plan for the future.
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Posts of this length are too long to read.
You can just go back to sleep. It’ll be over soon.
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I read only a very small portion of your post. I'm saving the rest of it to read at about 11 PM tonight. That way, I won't have to take a sleeping pill. I'll be asleep before I get to the end of it.
I think the gist of it is a poster I used to have up in my room as a teenager.

JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE PARANOID DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE NOT OUT TO GET YOU

I have been watching Shadowland an documentary on the fringe right and their conspiracies. Amazing how many people living out in in trailers out in the sticks have the whole secret world government figured out. Shape shifting serpent creature and the like. If they could figure out how to make a living...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CFjicsPZG0
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Old 10-17-2022, 05:42 AM
 
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if you were interested in trying to figure out how we got here.

The plan

this is important to understanding what is going on now and why it matters. I’m attempting to connect some dots and make a case for what i believe is going on but that requires some backstory to be able to follow along and even then it is still not an easy follow.

Now for the really interesting part to me.

In 1972 a book called limits to growth was published for the club of rome’s “predicament of mankind” project.



http://www.donellameadows.org/wp-con...an-version.pdf

the book came to this conclusion:



https://web.ics.purdue.edu/~wggray/t...-to-growth.pdf

that kind of sounds like ”from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” that’s strange. Oh well…

in 1973 aurelio peccei, the first president of the club of rome, gave a speech at the forerunner to the world economic forum. They called the meeting this year the davos manifesto.

Yaaaawn!

https://www3.weforum.org/docs/wef_a_...ng_history.pdf

you might remember the nixon administration making lots of changes that they called “east-west realignment” where the dropped breton woods, nixon met with mao to try and normalize relations, price control, etc. The meeting with mao was important, this was the same year that ltg was published. During that meeting mao asked kissinger if he had anything to say. Below is his response:



https://china.usc.edu/mao-zedong-mee...bruary-21-1972

they may not seem all that important unless you know to what he is referring to. He is referring to wide scale national campaign at human thought reform, and mao was successful. A famous psychiatrist wrote extensively on it, his name is robert jay lifton. His book was titled “thought reform and the psychology of totalism.” in the book lifton writes about interviewing fleeing victims of mao’s thought reform program. He came up with eight theme of totalitarianism that one could use to recognize a thought reform program. Milieu control (censorship), mystical manipulation (vanguard movements), loaded language (blm, white supremacy, etc. - “thought terminating cliches), “sacred” science (closed system of logic that cannot be questioned), cult of confession (the desire to confess to crimes one has not committed due to guilt, shame and peer pressure), demand for purity (anti-racism, antifa, etc., anything that requires a never ending struggle that can be used infinitely to perpetuate the closed system of logic), doctrine over person (the doctrine is always right, it is the person that is flawed), and dispensing of existence (cancel culture).

That was all important so you can understand what comes next.

In 1980’s the un published a report called “ report of the world commission on environment and development: Our common future” by gro harlem brundtland. This was referred to as the brundtland commission of brundtland report. Below are the important parts because the make a call for a change to morals and priorities and you will understand why later.


&



http://www.un-documents.net/our-common-future.pdf

fast forward to 9/11/2001. Everyone knows what happened in ny at the twin towers. In the aftermath of that tragedy the un made a call for “global agenda for dialogue among civilizations,” this is where dei was born.

https://undocs.org/en/a/res/56/6

this is where the collegium international was created. The collegium international is important because they created this doctrine for world governance. They created dei (corporations), esg (finance), sel (education), coercive persuasion (.mil), no idea what the program for church is. The point was to synchronize society, to “give it a rudder.” so who were/are the members of this collegium? Well for it’s first major announcement in 2003 with the declaration of interdependence, these people signed it:



https://search.archives.un.org/uploa...6-01-00008.pdf

you might notice a few names and recognize them, maybe not. Important for this long drawn out post are benjamin barber (interdependence), jurgen habermas (critical theory/continental theory/neo or post marxism), milan kucan, edgar morin, joseph stiglitz, stephen hessel, michel rocard and robert jay lifton. I’m sure the other were/are (some have passed away) important in their own ways. Barber and stiglitz were advisors to bill clinton. Lifton i talked about earlier. Habermas has worked his whole life in critical theory.

Touching back on that brundtland commission report, i kid you not, the collegium has an archived article called “michel rocard or the ethical conspiracy.”



(it’s in french but can be translated in your browser most likely)

https://web.archive.org/web/20210518...t-ethique.html

when you go to the ci’s website they list connections important to their work:

Club of madrid
club of rome
nuclear threat initiative
earth policy institute
interaction counsel
open society institute
anna lindh foundation

obviously club of rome stands out because of the previously mentioned “limits to growth.”

so it turns out the “limits to growth” was updated on 11/3/2020 - us general election voting day to elect potus - by a person named gays herrington.

https://advisory.kpmg.us/content/dam...ublication.pdf

in that publication the author goes into the history of ltg, updates throughout the years, the calculations used, etc, but one of the more interesting things is the graph that has the five pillars talked about at the beginning of this post and for the “sw” model (sustainable world) it list “population stabilized” and a “change in values and priorities.”

i wrote all that so i could talk about the thought reform program that is radicalizing students to become compassionate rainbow colored apocalyptic death cult members. They are sterilizing kids, poison is flowing over the border, they’re trying to instill alienation in the whole of society by distancing people socially, culturally, morally and mechanically.


https://library.oapen.org/bitstream/...=1&isallowed=y

i understand, it’s hard to believe that this is an actual program being forced on the general population. Deindustrialization, depopulation, reduced food production, lowering pollution and limiting resource extraction.



https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000380519

yaaaawn!!!
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