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Old 10-19-2022, 06:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by phinneas j. whoopee
Youre delusional. The election was RIGGED....
Based upon NO PROOF whatsoever.

Sore losers who blame others for their failure.

Not what I would have thought of as a Republican trait back in the day.

Now so-called "Republicans" are undermining faith in our elections ... only when they lose

They don't question the results when a Republican wins on the same ballot. It is childish.

Yes, threats to our democracy is exactly correct.
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:25 AM
 
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Based upon NO PROOF whatsoever.

Sore losers who blame others for their failure.

Not what I would have thought of as a Republican trait back in the day.

Now so-called "Republicans" are undermining faith in our elections ... only when they lose

They don't question the results when a Republican wins on the same ballot. It is childish.

Yes, threats to our democracy is exactly correct.
Questioning anything is not a threat to our democracy! Ever heard of freedom of speech?

Then there's this........

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ctions-rigged/
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:28 AM
 
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What are you saying. Trump has recently said if he is reelected he is going to pardon the Jan 6 criminals.

Are you denying he said this?
Did you not read post #61?
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:32 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post

Now so-called "Republicans" are undermining faith in our elections ... only when they lose
maybe this is what caused their diminished faith in elections?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2Ejqjz6TA

^^^ are these "tHr3At5 t0 oUr d3m0cRaCy!!!" ?
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:33 AM
 
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He told his allies to “Stand back and stand by”.

Mr. Trump's last-minute speech revisions escalated tensions. This is based on the testimony of witnesses. A single scripted reference in the speech to Mike Pence became eight, a single scripted reference to rally-goers marching to the Capitol became four, with President Trump ad-libbing that he would be joining the protesters at the Capitol.

One of his first changes was to insert the lines "Together we will stop the steal," and "All of us ... here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical left Democrats. Our country has had enough, we will not take it anymore."

"We will see whether Mike Pence enters history as a truly great and courageous leader. All he has to do is refer the illegally submitted electoral votes back to the states that were given false and fraudulent information where they want to recertify."

“Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened. And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

Live updates: Jan. 6 rioter, former Oath Keepers spokesman testify in seventh hearing

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/12/11099...h-live-updates
So, how does "stand back and stand by" equate to turn violent? We are all only responsible for our own actions and that includes the actions of those involved in the Jan. 6th incident. Stop trying to pin this on Trump!

None, of what Trump said equated to "get violent"! Even "fight like hell" which is a common phrase when one believes in something doesn't mean get violent! Get a grip, will you?
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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I’m still amazed that over half of the country are truly that stupid to vote for Biden. AND!! Democrats, across the country are now using the basement strategy, which isn’t as effective as it was in 2020.

As for Biden’s dimwitted ideal of trying to shame the other half of America that knows he’s an idiot with his Ultra MAGA ideal really blew up in his own face, just like blaming Putin, Trump, DeSantis, Abbot and gas station owners for all his screw ups. The funny thing about it is that this moron actually thought that was a good ideal!! What an idiot!!

Not only is Biden corrupted, but totally incompetent and is destroying the country piece by piece, each and every month.

Seriously, when have we had two months of good news or even ONE month of OK news since he took office??

The only thing I know is that we’re screwed!!
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:49 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Most people don't buy into the demonization of the right or left because they're reasonable and have friends and family that are left and right and realize that these people aren't monsters.

Mostly it's done to rile up the base into feeling like they're the noble champion fighting against the evil forces of the left\right.
Problem is the nice people we know on the left, support the extremists now in power.

Dems own the hate and fear mongering franchise which as expanded into violence and promoted by the state media.

the nice people on the left won't damage your car if you have a trump bumper sticker, the others on the left will.

Agree, no hatred, just sad disappointment.

However, the source of the hate expressed, is owned entirely by the dems and their state media. the media is that kid who comes up to you and says, 'did you hear what Mikey said about you? oh man, he even said your mother wears combat boots. I'd punch him out if I were you".

Destabilizing society is the intent of the hate, and fits perfectly with other left policies and positions directed at the same intent. The pattern is clear.
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Old 10-19-2022, 08:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by phinneas j. whoopee
Youre delusional. The election was RIGGED ...
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
Based upon NO PROOF whatsoever.

Sore losers who blame others for their failure.

Not what I would have thought of as a Republican trait back in the day.

Now so-called "Republicans" are undermining faith in our elections ... only when they lose

They don't question the results when a Republican wins on the same ballot. It is childish.

Yes, threats to our democracy is exactly correct.
Questioning anything is not a threat to our democracy! Ever heard of freedom of speech?
Freedom to lie, you mean? Freedom to be unethical?

No one questioned our election process until Trump conspired to lie about it, then his minions all got on board with the lie.

Candidates can't get an endorsement without repeating the lie.

We are not talking opinions here, the facts are the facts, the election was run in the same way they are always run, and it has been vetted countless times with the same result. Even biased characters recounting with biased volunteers have shown that the counts were correct.

If you or anyone like you really cared about election integrity, you would be angry that people are pitching lies about the election.

Claimants of the lie have said that no reasonable person would believe the statements. Yet here we are, reading that people STILL believe the lies, and repeat them here two years after the fact.

The so-called "questioning" is nothing but a surreptitious way of undermining the results, and weakening our system of free and fair election.

So enough of this hiding behind mamma's skirt of "freedom of speech" as an excuse to repeat lies. A lie like this is dangerous, and we are also free to call these liars out on it. In fact, we have a duty to do so.
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Old 10-19-2022, 12:04 PM
 
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Freedom to lie, you mean? Freedom to be unethical?

No one questioned our election process until Trump conspired to lie about it, then his minions all got on board with the lie.

Candidates can't get an endorsement without repeating the lie.

We are not talking opinions here, the facts are the facts, the election was run in the same way they are always run, and it has been vetted countless times with the same result. Even biased characters recounting with biased volunteers have shown that the counts were correct.

If you or anyone like you really cared about election integrity, you would be angry that people are pitching lies about the election.

Claimants of the lie have said that no reasonable person would believe the statements. Yet here we are, reading that people STILL believe the lies, and repeat them here two years after the fact.

The so-called "questioning" is nothing but a surreptitious way of undermining the results, and weakening our system of free and fair election.

So enough of this hiding behind mamma's skirt of "freedom of speech" as an excuse to repeat lies. A lie like this is dangerous, and we are also free to call these liars out on it. In fact, we have a duty to do so.
There is no lie when one has evidence to the contrary and even lying isn't against the law unless it's done in a court of law. What was unethical? Do I have to post this link again because you obviously ignored it?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ctions-rigged/
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Old 10-19-2022, 02:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
Questioning anything is not a threat to our democracy! Ever heard of freedom of speech? ...
Freedom to lie, you mean? Freedom to be unethical?

No one questioned our election process until Trump conspired to lie about it, then his minions all got on board with the lie.

Candidates can't get an endorsement without repeating the lie.

We are not talking opinions here, the facts are the facts, the election was run in the same way they are always run, and it has been vetted countless times with the same result. Even biased characters recounting with biased volunteers have shown that the counts were correct.

If you or anyone like you really cared about election integrity, you would be angry that people are pitching lies about the election.

Claimants of the lie have said that no reasonable person would believe the statements. Yet here we are, reading that people STILL believe the lies, and repeat them here two years after the fact.

The so-called "questioning" is nothing but a surreptitious way of undermining the results, and weakening our system of free and fair election.

So enough of this hiding behind mamma's skirt of "freedom of speech" as an excuse to repeat lies. A lie like this is dangerous, and we are also free to call these liars out on it. In fact, we have a duty to do so.
There is no lie when one has evidence to the contrary ...
There is no evidence to the contrary. All of Trump's lies have been debunked. All of Trump's minions have proven to be wrong. There was not enough of any sort of election fraud or even mistakes to have changed the results of the election in even one state (much less the several needed to change the results). Not even close. We already know this, it has been checked out too many times ... even by biased Republican partisan hacks.

Sore losers are not entitled to their own facts. No one is.

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