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Old 10-25-2022, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Sammamish, WA
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Professor Prasad:

"It's not just the top of the distribution that has elevated high-sensitivity troponin, but the whole distribution is shifted to the right. Everyone has a slightly elevated value for high-sensitivity troponin. That's what this graph suggests."

A troponin increase occurs when your heart is damaged:

"Troponin is a type of protein found in the muscles of your heart. Troponin is not normally found in the blood. When the heart muscles are damaged, troponin is released into the bloodstream. As the heart becomes more damaged, larger amounts of troponin are released into the blood."



Vinayak Prasad, MD, MPH (Professor, Epidemiology & Biostatistics)
https://profiles.ucsf.edu/vinayak.prasad

Subclinical Myocarditis - NEW Report from Switzerland - Vital Findings



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vveMHtVk_mY

 
Old 10-25-2022, 08:02 AM
 
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Toward the end of the video Dr. Prasad sums it up nicely by doing a cost-benefit analysis of the mRNA vaccines/boosters vs. getting Covid. Essentially, the more vaccines/boosters you get, the greater the chance you're going to get serious heart damage. And with Covid continuing to evolve, you'll need an ever increasing amount of vaccines or booster shots to fully protect yourself from the virus.


Basically, there's no point in getting the vaccines/boosters at this point because their effectiveness is decreasing, and then you have to consider the heart damage these vaccines can cause.
 
Old 10-25-2022, 09:01 AM
 
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Wow. Who'da thunk? Total surprise.
 
Old 10-25-2022, 10:12 AM
 
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This anti-vax nonsense is total crap!


Every medication, in fact anything around us, has adverse effects. Oxygen in higher concentrations caused blindness in premies. Dihydrogen oxide (water) can cause water intoxication and sometimes death


You must weigh benefits vs risks and proceed from there


COVID is worse than the vaccines
 
Old 10-25-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by mike1003 View Post
This anti-vax nonsense is total crap!


Every medication, in fact anything around us, has adverse effects. Oxygen in higher concentrations caused blindness in premies. Dihydrogen oxide (water) can cause water intoxication and sometimes death


You must weigh benefits vs risks and proceed from there


COVID is worse than the vaccines
Not in boys for sure 16-24.

And as I keep saying, it's not a choice. You will get COVID if you get vaccinated. No one gets any benefit from these garbage vaccines.
 
Old 10-25-2022, 10:14 AM
 
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COVID is worse than the vaccines
Not at all. Unless you are very old, very obese, or very infirm.

In fact, the latest target group for the experiment (kids) has essentially zero risk from covid. Yet they are being targeted for an ineffective and potentially harmful "treatment" anyway.
 
Old 10-25-2022, 10:20 AM
 
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Not at all. Unless you are very old, very obese, or very infirm.

In fact, the latest target group for the experiment (kids) has essentially zero risk from covid. Yet they are being targeted for an ineffective and potentially harmful "treatment" anyway.
Even in them, we currently have no clinical evidence they benefit from these vaccines or the new bivalent booster.

All Pfizer's clinical trial showed back in 2020 was their vaccines lowered symptomatic COVID without budging deaths or total disease burden (from COVID, suspected COVID and other UTRI or LTRIs added together).
 
Old 10-25-2022, 10:22 AM
 
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Even in them, we currently have no clinical evidence they benefit from these vaccines or the new bivalent booster.

All Pfizer's clinical trial showed back in 2020 was their vaccines lowered symptomatic COVID without budging deaths or total disease burden (from COVID, suspected COVID and other UTRI or LTRIs added together).
That was for COVID 1.0. What about the subsequent variants?

To be clear - they did not do any long term testing as was the case for other vaccines. I guess those who have been vaccinated are the long term testing guinea pigs.
 
Old 10-25-2022, 10:24 AM
 
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That was for COVID 1.0. What about the subsequent variants?

To be clear - they did not do any long term testing as was the case for other vaccines. I guess those who have been vaccinated are the long term testing guinea pigs.
Yes, exactly. Even in the original Wuhan variant, we had NO clinical evidence ANYONE benefited from this vaccine. We're even in a worse place now, with Omicron.

And the bivalent booster? Was not just approved on the data from 8-10 mice, but all the mice got COVID anyway! They needed to measure their Ab levels and say, well the vaccine raised Abs! I crap you not, these vaccines and our regulatory approval process is a joke.
 
Old 10-25-2022, 11:23 AM
 
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That was for COVID 1.0. What about the subsequent variants?

To be clear - they did not do any long term testing as was the case for other vaccines. I guess those who have been vaccinated are the long term testing guinea pigs.
That's fine, as long as we have guinea pigs somewhere, that's all that matters. The Pharma companies that make these vaccines can't be held liable and cannot be sued. So they're covered. So they really don't need to test, do they? No skin off their nose if there are problems. So what's the problem? People die or have health complications from those vaccines. But that doesn't matter.
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