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Day after day, right wing extremists lie and lie and lie.
It was Trump's party that spent trillions paying people during covid, forced our economy to close, destroyed countless businesses, created a new pandemic of homelessness. It's Trump's maga republicans stripping gun rights, "Take the guns first." It's Trump's party lying about the election process. There is no "rigging." It is all a lie, fostered by right wing fascist extremism.
Nearly everything you wrote in that paragraph is demonstrably false.
"forced our economy to close, destroyed countless businesses, created a new pandemic of homelessness" -
The federal government has no authority to do any of that. The closures came from the states, and the strictest lockdowns were in Democrat-led states. Republican governors who kept their states open in whole or large part were universally decried as murderers. Search Twitter (or probably here, for that matter) for "deathsantis" if you really need to see evidence of this.
"stripping gun rights, 'take the guns first'" -
Legitimate criticism of Trump's words and I share that critique often. That said, it's not Republicans who are gunning for the 2nd Amendment, and you damn well know it. I'm not going to bother pulling up quotes from O'Rourke, Swalwell, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Feinstein, Whitmer, Hochul, Newsom... The list is endless, and as I wrote, you damn well know it. We have to be vigilant about ANY politician when it comes to the 2nd but when it comes to platform positions, to suggest that Republicans want to take our guns but Democrats don't is so unbelievably laughable, I'm actually pretty shocked that you did it, and frankly, you're insulting the intelligence of everyone on the board by trying to pass that steaming pile of bullcrap off on us.
"lying about the election process" -
I'm just going to mention the ongoing debate about the popular vote vs electoral college and leave it at that. 'Nuff said.
"no 'rigging'" -
Check the definition of 'rig' in this context. You can debate whether or not there was fraud, but there is no debate about whether or not there was rigging. It happened; everyone knows it; steps are being taken in some states to correct it and you need to accept reality.
Nearly everything you wrote in that paragraph is demonstrably false.
"forced our economy to close, destroyed countless businesses, created a new pandemic of homelessness" -
The federal government has no authority to do any of that. The closures came from the states, and the strictest lockdowns were in Democrat-led states. Republican governors who kept their states open in whole or large part were universally decried as murderers. Search Twitter (or probably here, for that matter) for "deathsantis" if you really need to see evidence of this.
"stripping gun rights, 'take the guns first'" -
Legitimate criticism of Trump's words and I share that critique often. That said, it's not Republicans who are gunning for the 2nd Amendment, and you damn well know it. I'm not going to bother pulling up quotes from O'Rourke, Swalwell, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Feinstein, Whitmer, Hochul, Newsom... The list is endless, and as I wrote, you damn well know it. We have to be vigilant about ANY politician when it comes to the 2nd but when it comes to platform positions, to suggest that Republicans want to take our guns but Democrats don't is so unbelievably laughable, I'm actually pretty shocked that you did it, and frankly, you're insulting the intelligence of everyone on the board by trying to pass that steaming pile of bullcrap off on us.
"lying about the election process" -
I'm just going to mention the ongoing debate about the popular vote vs electoral college and leave it at that. 'Nuff said.
"no 'rigging'" -
Check the definition of 'rig' in this context. You can debate whether or not there was fraud, but there is no debate about whether or not there was rigging. It happened; everyone knows it; steps are being taken in some states to correct it and you need to accept reality.
The facts on the national deficit largely support Biden.
The last time the USA was debt free was in 1837 under Democrats Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren.
The GOP, following Reagan's example, have a fiscal plan to increase the deficit as much as possible by spending and tax cuts. That is due to their realization that they are a minority party and not able to retain control for long periods. The intended result is to hamstring subsequent Democratic administrations' ability to fund programs without increasing taxes, which feeds into their popular mythology that they are fiscally responsible, and the Democrats are the "Tax and spend" party. Clinton threw them a curve when he handed "W" Bush a surplus, but that was soon squandered on the Iraq war. Obama worked to reduce the deficit only to have Trump spend like a drunken sailor. Republicans favor the borrow and spend approach as it favors those with deep pockets. The largest holder of US government debt is American investors.
Hours later, Biden championed his student debt forgiveness program – a program that completely wipes out the modest deficit savings created by the Inflation Reduction Act.
Don't forget about Stacey Abrams telling people abortion is anti inflationary...
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Originally Posted by remco67
ok anybody who believes either side is fiscally responsible is freaking insane or smoking something really good....
Because the debt IS the money supply. So if people want that money flying around and easy to grab a hold of, this is more or less the way it has to be, unfortunately. I'm all for doing more with less, but good luck getting the rest of America to go along with that. Actual fiscal responsibility would be a very uncomfortable experience for a lot of people. The rest of the world would feel the negative effects as well.
President Joe Biden said his party is the most fiscally responsible
...want a bigger shovel?
same guy that just said the pandemic is over....
...now saying if you don't get another booster....people are going to die this winter
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